Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-17 Thread Michael Herger
Playback would stop as soon as I tried to access the main web interface. Menu navigation also caused drop outs. This was while I was playing FLAC files (so it would be transcoding). The server runs on a dedicated linux box (XP2200 with 512MB). I did wait for the rescan to complete. This is d

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-17 Thread Free Lunch
Encouraged by the news that recent 6.2 nightly builds solved performance issues, I tried the 10-12 nightly with my original Slimp3.. Unfortunately, it was much worse than 5.4.1 with my 48K track library. Playback would stop as soon as I tried to access the main web interface. Menu navigation al

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-13 Thread Triode
Triode. I ran Server and Network Health as you asked. Here is the output. It's not perfect but doesn't appear worrying. I wonder how much running the web interface and the annoying refresh on the laptop server influenced the figures (I've just realised that there was also a second instance of the

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-13 Thread Triode
As a suggestion - how about the welcome screen showing something differerent when a player is turned on and the server is scanning? At the very least, it needs to be made very obvious to the user via release notes and, preferably, a large bit of text next to the download link! I wonder how ma

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Jess Askey
It actually doesn't bother me that much at this point since the machine truly is a dog and I woudln't expect slimserver to run very well on it. Certainly, improvements in slimserver would be nice, but Im a perfectly happy customer right now. I used to OC the machine to 550Mhz but it doesn't see

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Pat Farrell
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 17:57 -0700, Michaelwagner wrote: > MrC Wrote: > > Can you say... swapping! > Yeah, that sounds like more memory, if you can add it easily, might be > a quick fix to get out of the problem for now. More memory is always good. If you can't add it, change systems. > However,

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Triode
Jess, Can I suggest you try the Random Mix plugin that is part of 6.2. This provides an alternative way of randomly playing your music collection without the performance problem of shuffled play (for long lists) Goto Plugins->Random Mix and select relavent option and press play. I typically

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Jess Askey
I have an under powered machine and here are my delay scenarios... PII 366 Celeron, 384M RAM, 320gig UDMA-100 driver with PCI UDMA-100 Controller 745 Albums, 12353 Songs Linux Mandrake 9.2 - BIND9, Postgresql, Slimserver I have my folders organized in the root music folder like this Christmas

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Triode
Did that. And updated firmware. Slimserver took more than three seconds to respond to any request via the remote with the new version. Since then I have been trying to revert to my previous SS version, without success so far (lots of Squeezebox can't find SlimServer). MC Is this after allowing

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Free Lunch
On 10/12/05, Patrick Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I also think it would be useful to be able to cancel tasks that are > taking too long: I seem to regularly accidentally ask the server to > play 'everything' (I'm pretty stupid, I know), and my server literally > goes away for minutes! It's

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Richie
> > If I choose Browse Music > Browse Genres > Rock > All Albums from the > > Squeezebox2 using the remote, the list appears with no detectable (< 1 > > second) delay. There are 513 albums in this genre. Using SS6.2 > > nightlies on Win XP SP2 with an Athlon 1.4GHz with 768MB RAM. > > RichardIf it'

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Richie
> I'd be very glad if someone above who stated that SlimServer > performance was acceptable on a (preferably not hugely specced) Windows > machine could use the *remote* to call up Browse Genres > A Genre With a > Lot of Albums > All Albums, and let me know if performance is fine with > this menu c

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Robin Bowes
Michaelwagner said the following on 12/10/2005 15:17: Robin Bowes Wrote: If the core code is broken out into separate threads/processes with clearly defined interfaces then each process can be written in whatever language you like. I think each core element of the code should have its own proce

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Michael Herger
What's "a Lot of Albums"? 100? 1000? Michael, a mere 122 under Browse Music > Browse Genres > Ambient > All Albums This is not huge enough a number to make me understand the delay you encounter. I have 87 albums in the largest genre I found, and they show up in about 1-2 seconds on a Via C3

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Robin Bowes
Michaelwagner said the following on 12/10/2005 14:22: Robin Bowes Wrote: However, the current architecture is such that any blocking operation will interrupt audio streaming if it blocks for long enough. From looking at the code, it seems that perl has no built-in interrupt handling or disp

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Robin Bowes
Music Machine said the following on 11/10/2005 23:13: Two cents from the Peanut Gallery It seems like people are pretty happy with performance if they have around 350 or less albums in the database. 750 albums or more is about the place where no one seems satisfied with performance. Between th

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-12 Thread Michael Herger
I'd be very glad if someone above who stated that SlimServer performance was acceptable on a (preferably not hugely specced) Windows machine could use the *remote* to call up Browse Genres > A Genre With a Lot of Albums > All Albums, and let me know if performance is fine with this menu choice.

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Richie
> It seems like people are pretty happy with performance if they have > around 350 or less albums in the database. 750 albums or more is about > the place where no one seems satisfied with performance. Between those > quantities satisfaction varies quite a bit. I could easily have missed > posts

RE: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Richard Scales
th 48489 songs by 6223 artists Regards Richard -Original Message- From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 October 2005 03:01 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations? Music Machine wrote: >Two cents from the Peanut Ga

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Jack Coates
Music Machine wrote: Two cents from the Peanut Gallery It seems like people are pretty happy with performance if they have around 350 or less albums in the database. 750 albums or more is about the place where no one seems satisfied with performance. Between those quantities satisfaction vari

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Pat Farrell
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 15:13 -0700, Music Machine wrote: > It seems like people are pretty happy with performance if they have > around 350 or less albums in the database. 750 albums or more is about > the place where no one seems satisfied with performance. Between those > quantities satisfaction

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Triode
Unfortunately this laptop is not a high spec machine. It only has a 500ghz P3 processor and O.5gb Ram. Is this considered to be too underpowered to run as a dedicated SS machine? What is SlimDevices minimum spec for XP running SS? I've had a good look around but not found any recommendations. A

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Pat Farrell
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 11:09 -0700, ModelCitizen wrote: > Free Lunch Wrote: > > The performance problems are mainly due to the way the slimserver > > software is written. Throwing hardware at the problem will not solve > > those design issues. I generally find that throwing hardware at most proble

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-11 Thread Free Lunch
> Still, the easiest way to get performance in the PC world is with new, > fast systems. I'd look at a SFF system for music performance. > I don't like laptops in that environment because they tend to be > more fragile than I like. Not that you can let a roadie throw > any computer around like they

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-09 Thread Robin Bowes
ModelCitizen said the following on 08/10/2005 19:25: Unfortunately this laptop is not a high spec machine. It only has a 500ghz P3 processor and O.5gb Ram. You might like to check that - when I was logged in when you had CentOS installed the machine only appeared to have 192MB physical RAM .

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-08 Thread Jack Coates
Pat Farrell wrote:... If laptops are wanted for the display and IO, then I'd look at big "desktop replacement" laptops, probably used from IBM or other major vendor. Even a Centrino 1.5mHz is way fast enough to Slimserver and a few other toys for eye candy. A grand worth of used laptop can buy

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-08 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:57 -0700, Jack Coates wrote: > Pat Farrell wrote: > >Or a decent SFF chasis. > > > SFF's are nifty for the gamers because they have rocking video cards, > but they're bigger than a laptop, just as expensive as a laptop, lack > the integrated flat panel, mouse, and keyboar

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-08 Thread Jack Coates
Pat Farrell wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:56 -0700, Jack Coates wrote: ... Sounds like you might be letting a less-important consideration (portability) interfere with a more important consideration (viability). What's wrong with a decent laptop chassis (say a T41, $500-$1000 on EBay)

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-08 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 19:27 -0700, Michaelwagner wrote: > Works fine with 5. Broke with "new improved better performance" 6, so I went > back to 5. > But I can't stay there forever. Why not? I run Windows 2K on my serious Windows machine. And I'm currently running my slimserver version 5.1 and

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-08 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:56 -0700, Jack Coates wrote: > Michaelwagner wrote: > >I'm in a similar situation - I have to have low-spec hardware in order > >to have low weight. > Sounds like you might be letting a less-important consideration > (portability) interfere with a more important considera

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-10-08 Thread Jack Coates
Michaelwagner wrote: nmizel Wrote: I also suffered from similar problems in the past with my SB1, mainly caused by my low-power hardware (VIA Eden 533 MHz, USB 1.1 external hard disk). I DJ with my squeezebox, and I'm trying to build a portable system. Portable means light weight hardw

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations? -- no, but I can tell you what *isn't* working for me..

2005-08-05 Thread Dondi Fusco
* radish shaped the electrons to say... > >Could it be file types? I'm mainly vorbis & FLAC, > with only a very few > >mp3s. I know vorbis tags are supposed to be > somewhat better designed > >than ID3, but I don't know if they're more > efficient to read. Also do > >the obvious things like making

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations? -- no, but I can tell you what *isn't* working for me..

2005-08-05 Thread Dondi Fusco
--- radish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I don't understand is why the scan time is > seemingly exponential. > I can do a full wipe and rescan of about 10,000 > tracks in under 15 > minutes (more like 10), so why does 7x the tracks > take 96x as long to > scan? Radish... diff OS?? Is Linux th

RE: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations? -- no, but I can tell you what *isn't* working for me..

2005-08-04 Thread Matt Alioto
Maybe a .cue/.m3u problem? A lot of the CDs I have ripped have playlist files in the dir with the music. If I browse folders and play a directory containing a CD that has a playlist file in it I get 2 of each song. I commented out .cue and .m3u in types.conf to remedy.(which of course broke playl

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-08-04 Thread Mark Bennett
One important piece of data to add: slimserver-2005_05_30-1 Haven't bothered to update since it does what I need 99% of the time. On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 22:46 +0100, Mark Bennett wrote: > Intrigued by this thread I wanted to test my system to see > what happens. First of all, I'll make no bones -

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-08-04 Thread Mark Bennett
Intrigued by this thread I wanted to test my system to see what happens. First of all, I'll make no bones - it's a fairly high-end system, so I wasn't expecting any problems: Intel P4, 3.4GHz with Hyper-threading 1 GB 400MHZ dual-channel DDR OS/home on a Western Digital 200GB PATA drive with

Re: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-08-04 Thread Stewart Loving-Gibbard
Ah, good to know -- thank you for responding! I have an Adaptec RAID card that came bundled with my new machine, I was concerned it would be too slow for the purpose. Your library is just a little smaller than mine, and your specs very close to what I was intending. I'd be tickled if I had si

RE: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-08-04 Thread Marshall Clow
At 4:28 PM +0100 8/4/05, Craig, James (IT) wrote: I was just thinking that. Surely overkill for what we all know is a single threaded process? I run SlimServer on my office desktop, which I frequently use heavily while playing music on SlimServer and I have no problems apart from during the resc

RE: [slim] Re: Best Performance - recommendations?

2005-08-04 Thread Craig, James (IT)
I was just thinking that. Surely overkill for what we all know is a single threaded process? I run SlimServer on my office desktop, which I frequently use heavily while playing music on SlimServer and I have no problems apart from during the rescan, which I have scheduled to run at night. (almo