Just aired my disappointment about the dropping of the squeezebox
development / marketing to the man at the top of Logitech guessing his
email address: guerrino.del...@logitech.com.
So far, the email has not bounced back... :-)
Today, corporate mail servers usually don't bounce back e-mails so to
not help you guess e-mail addresses.
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But guerrino.deluca1...@logitech.com BOUNCED back!
The error that the other server returned was: 550 550
guerrino.deluca1...@logitech.com... No such user (state 13).
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sake23 wrote:
Just aired my disappointment about the dropping of the squeezebox
development / marketing to the man at the top of Logitech guessing his
email address:
Honestly, I think you will have better success to make a difference if
you post it in public, official support forum,
erland wrote:
Honestly, I think you will have better success to make a difference if
you post it in public, official support forum, facebook, twitter or
similar. Most companies are more afraid of bad publicity than a single
user who complains to them via private mail.
This is the company
It gets worse though - the UE radio will be a bust. The audio quality
you can get from a single average sounding radio speaker is not that
great. Which leaves them with no market
Meanwhile, multi-use computing devices are catching up. I bought an Ipad
Mini recently and tried it out as a bathroom
Osamede wrote:
I didnt really dig the SB Radio until I experimented with a second one
as a stereo pair - then you get some decent quality sound. But logitech
has killed that functionality in the new product.
Actually _that_ is wrong. They even promoted the functionality by
making it more
Pippin, I can see the UE potential, but without a Touch/SB3-like
deviceit cannot function for an audio system.
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Oh, I fully agree. I believe with the current closed and limited
approach it will not succeed even then.
I believe they fell prey to a fallacy assuming that if people tell them
they use a certain feature 80% of the time they would be happy to ONLY
have that feature if it's somewhat accessible.
toby10 wrote:
Because they believe the UE design will better fit their plug play
mass market business model.
Simpler setup, one server, less buggy software, etc... resulting in
fewer customer service support calls.
But this all comes at the expense of features, functions,
Gadgety1 wrote:
Exactly. It' based on Logitech's market research (available on the
internet if you search). The high end audiophile, music lover market,
looking for value for money, is too small and not profitable enough.
Logitech bought SB which had this market segment and wanted to, in
I am an end of line consumer and so want to listen to my music
collection and the radio. So what is UE?
I have the basic technical skills of setting up a network. I have a
Touch 3 SB radios, one radio only being purchased in the last week for
my spare room as they are great once set up
JJZolx wrote:
The problem, IMO, is that Logitech had no idea what they were buying.
The Squeezebox system is a client-server networked music player, heavily
dependent on the quality of the network and on the reliability of the
computer on which the server software is run. It started as a
pippin wrote:
While I agree with the observation, it did not necessarily have to be
that way. The client/server architecture was a smart move when it was
first introduced because it allowed to build a low cost system with a
lot of capability and extensibility. There are no systems on the
Waldo Pepper wrote:
So my question is..Is my system going to be up and working for the next
5 years or so or am I going to be left with an expensive pile of
electronic clocks that once worked as music and radio players once
Logitech pull the plug on support mysqueezebox.com?
My guess
It's a bummer the SB line has been dropped, but I'm not planning to jump
ship and try some other product anytime soon. My various SBs still work,
and I expect them to continue working for a long time to come. The
hardware seems sound enough, and until it begins to break down and fail,
I should
I've always though the Slimdevices buy-out was the scheme of a Logitech
VP who was then let-go, so there was no-one to fight the cause. After
the Google TV epic fail, I expect 'streaming' was the kiss of death to
careers in Logitech.
Logitech completely threw away everything they had. Loyal
IMHO Logitech just don't know how to exploit the SB line's true
potential. Why ? Because they are a hardware company. To reach mass
market the high end capability offered by FLAC capable streaming needs
to be built into some product by recognised hifi manufacturers. Instead
you get Denon, Onkyo,
amcluesent wrote:
Sonos must be amazed that their main competitor self-destructed
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amcluesent wrote:
Sonos must be amazed that their main competitor self-destructed
I'm also fascinated by this ,
I do recognise pippins ideas about that the product may need much more
development .
But consider that Sonos has been pretty much the same for many years to
,so that niche
garym wrote:
The number of squeezebox customers of logitech is so very tiny compared
to their total customer base that I doubt Logitech cares about them one
way or another. And longevity in today's computer hardware market is 2
years max. After that the assumption is throw away and replace.
Logitech bit off more than they could chew. They're basically a pile 'em
high, sell 'em cheap box maker. They bought a geeky, buggy software
based product which they wanted to quickly turn mass market. They got in
over their heads. They missed huge potential even though it was staring
them in
menno wrote:
I'm just baffled that Logitech have not been able to make Squeezebox a
massive success. We are all here because we know that Squeezebox is the
best solution for our needs.
Yet I see a massive TV advertising campaign here in the UK by Sonos for
their products, using well know
ModelCitizen wrote:
Logitech bit off more than they could chew. They're basically a pile 'em
high, sell 'em cheap box maker. They bought a geeky, buggy software
based product which they wanted to quickly turn mass market. They got in
over their heads. They missed huge potential even though
I think their engineers are likely very good. But there is what, only
one or two supporting the entire ue/SB product line?
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tin wrote:
If this is true, which it might be, and the reason they EOLed
squeezebox, then there is only one question:
WHY ON EARTH did they immediately announce UE radio, that uses the same
hardware and, lets be frank, the same software? ..
Because they believe the UE design will
I've been a Squeezebox user and advocate almost since the beginning.
About the only product I didn't own was the original SLIMP3. I have a
dozen devices and was just talking about streaming home solutions with
an acquaintance the other day and showing off my SB solution where I
could control my
Ikabob wrote:
I guess time will tell. But, I sense that LOGITECH is assuring us that
they will remain accountable to us. LOGITECH'S statements are on
record..
This is Dudley from the Logitech UE product team..
Logitech will continue to support these products with troubleshooting
toby10 wrote:
The issue is the time frame and level of support, not their good
intentions or whether they mean what they say. now.
Time Frame: Technically they could shut down MySB.com tomorrow and
Dudley's statement would still be accurate because they continued
support for a
Ikabob wrote:
Excellent points and I totally agree. Because of the large numbers of
consumers who have invested large amounts of money in these excellent
LOGITECH products with expectations of longevity and functionality, I do
not think LOGITECH would want the publicity from disgruntled
garym wrote:
The number of squeezebox customers of logitech is so very tiny compared
to their total customer base that I doubt Logitech cares about them one
way or another. And longevity in today's computer hardware market is 2
years max. After that the assumption is throw away and replace.
garym wrote:
The number of squeezebox customers of logitech is so very tiny compared
to their total customer base that I doubt Logitech cares about them one
way or another. And longevity in today's computer hardware market is 2
years max. After that the assumption is throw away and replace.
Ikabob wrote:
You're probably right,Gary. I definitely respect your opinion. The 2
year and then throw it away part is hard for me to understand. It's
true,IMO, that hardware becomes outdated in a short time (2 years), but
the hardware is still functional for an indefinite period of time. I
garym wrote:
I agree that the hardware can last forever. I have perfectly working
radios from the 1930s, 40s, and 50s (I collect old radios). I expect my
Squeezebox hardware to last many years as should you. And with LMS and a
computer or NAS that can run LMS, the core functions can
tin wrote:
I fail to understand why it was not possible. Sure it's not possible now
(well not quite true, but not without a giant u-turn on the part of
Logitech).
If they had altered MSB to operate exactly the same as they want with
UE, and make a brand new squeezebox work exclusively
erland wrote:
They probably wanted to change customer base, basically get rid of the
geeks and music enthusiasts and start attracting mass market users who
mainly want to listen to internet radio and don't ask for bug
corrections and new features all the time. Their only problem at the
I recently purchased a Sonos Connect as a fail safe should Logitech pull
the plug on mysqueezebox, which they eventually will,
to listen to music services such as MOG.
After a couple of months of use,i still prefer the Squeezebox Touch and
no I don't have any 24/96/192 files and I don't exceed
Yeah I agree with you. I wouldn't even limit it to the touch, I prefer
my old SB3 to the Connect.
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Ikabob wrote:
I know this has been discussed so much but:
I am having a hard time believing that LOGITECH , a leader in audio
technology, is not planning to offer a UE or Squeezebox device that can
be connected to a stereo system (device similar to the discontinued
SBTouch or SB3).
I am
IMHO that doesn't really mean anything, aside from there'll be
discussion on the forum, and Logitech will execute any duties required
of them in accordance with sales law in whatever countries. It's the
same as all the other announcements so far imho (i.e. rest assured you
can still use the last
toby10 wrote:
They can't operate as both a SB Radio and a UE Radio by a simple menu
function.
It's one or the other requiring a completely separate firmware (OS) for
each type, SB or UE.
Not that many would not like your idea, as has been suggested before.
But it's just not possible.
I guess time will tell. But, I sense that they are assuring us that they
will remain accountable to usthose of us who have invested large
amounts of money in these Squeezebox products. I have noticed that
updates have continuously been added since their announcement of this so
called upgrade
Logitech and music(audiophil): RIP
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Sad to see that UE, as a top brand in Pro Audio, does not have a
audiophile player and we have to deal with a crappy transistor radio to
play the carefully selected flac file's. So Meredian it would me say
goodbye to Logitech RIP squeezebox :-(
If you bought a Radio, got it out of the box, and it JUST connected to
MSB, would that not be almost the same as UE - except that maybe UE has
some different user interface/is a bit more user friendly?
Then there is a menu option somewhere to enable the full squeezebox
experience. Those people
They can't operate as both a SB Radio and a UE Radio by a simple menu
function.
It's one or the other requiring a completely separate firmware (OS) for
each type.
Not that many would not like your idea, as has been suggested before.
But it's just not possible.
For right now it is so as UE only currently offers the Radio. If/when
they come out with a stereo connected player like the Touch is anyones
guess. There is always the stereo mini out plug on the Radio, if that
would suffice (which would not in my setup).
Their website just shows as products all the rubbish you could buy
anywhere. Mice, Keyboards etc and no HiFi kit. Sad.
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Waldo Pepper wrote:
Their website just shows as products all the rubbish you could buy
anywhere. Mice, Keyboards etc and no HiFi kit. Sad.
There's a seperate section for UE items.
And I'd disagree that their other products are rubbish.
Waldo Pepper wrote:
Their website just shows as products all the rubbish you could buy
anywhere. Mice, Keyboards etc and no HiFi kit. Sad.
You just need to click the Logitech | UE button along the top bar. How
many people will know that? Probably not many.
I would mightily hope this does not whither on the vine.
Of course, it would be good to have some money so I could buy spares
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