Re: [discuss] Document Compair OO 1.1 OO 2.0

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Wed November 16 2005 12:10, + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** Dear Concern, Have you document compair 1.1 and 2.0 what differance... As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that: On Thu November 17 2005 02:24, Matej Cepl wrote: I am

Re: [discuss] OO For Mac

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Wed November 16 2005 11:49, + Scott Morrison wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** Let me start by saying, I love OpenOffice. I use it at work on my PC. However, the Mac verison I use for my small business is not at the same level as the windows version. When are you going to

Re: [discuss] left and/or center and/or right justification on the same line?

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Fri November 4 2005 04:19, + Ken Mantle wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** I swear WordPerfect must have a patent on this feature, because I've never seen it documented or in any other word processor. Why is it not possible for Openoffice, Word, etc to allow justifying some text

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice Mac

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Mon October 31 2005 14:04, + Jean-Pierre Mitsch wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** Hello, I am discovering the last version (v2) of OpenOffice for the Mac. Congratulations ! I follow the open source movement since a lot of years, and now you are ready. I'ts Mac. A little

Re: [discuss] OOo2 Mac OSX: Right-to-left button

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Sun October 30 2005 20:57, + Emmanuel Danan wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** Hello, Just wanted to say there's a bug with the right-to-left and left-to- right buttons in OOo2 for OS X. There is no way to make them visible on the toolbars (they appear for a second and then

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
Please move this thread back on topic or move it to another forum. On topic here means discussion of items *directly* relevant to OpenOffice.org. Thank you for your cooperation. -- CPH : OpenOffice.org contributor - To

Re: [discuss] Reason's Why Part-1 (of 3)

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Sat December 10 2005 09:25, Roger Markus wrote: In 1995 Antel, the national telephone company of Uruguay, was caught pirating $100,000 worth of unlicensed software programs from Microsoft, Novell, and Symantec. Any company using pirated software can be brought to court. they can also

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 17:02 -0600, Randomthots wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: A school here rang me to say they had had a visit by FAST. UK version of BSA. They were threatened with death if they had any pirate software and then offered some software for £5000 to check and audit their servers.

Re: [discuss] Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 21:17 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi Gianluca, It's always a pleasure to see you active in OOo again. On 2005-12-09, at 05:02 , Gianluca Turconi wrote: To the attention of The Guardian Unlimited's Publisher, Technology section, and to Mr. Andrew Brown.

Re: [discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 21:06 -0600, Randomthots wrote: Do you know what a EULA is? Do you know what a contract is? Jonathon's enforcers are lawyers with subpoenas signed by judges. Not necessarily. The evidence I have is of people trying to gain entry and use fear to sell products without any

Re: [discuss] bugs in indent actions

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Mon December 5 2005 18:22, + t095i09 wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** I found in OOo 1.1.4 - 2 the decreasing or increasing indent action will lead cursor or text, over the write area (pages). Can you please retest on OOo2.0 and if the bug is there, can you report this

Re: [discuss] DXF CRASH

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Wed December 7 2005 09:58, + Ibrahim Tanriverdi wrote: [ MODERATED ] hello, OO 2.0 (win xp) crashes while opening a dxf file.. dxfviewer opens the same file with the notification: the dxf version is too new (R14) , diplay may be wrong!.. Can you please report this in

Re: [discuss] Reason's Why Part-1 (of 3)

2005-12-10 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 10:38 +, CPHennessy wrote: On Sat December 10 2005 09:25, Roger Markus wrote: In 1995 Antel, the national telephone company of Uruguay, was caught pirating $100,000 worth of unlicensed software programs from Microsoft, Novell, and Symantec. Any company

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Enrique Castro
Hi Gianluca Gianluca Turconi wrote: I've just read the article present on your news site: http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,16376,1660763,00.html?gusrc=rss and I have to say it includes misleading and false assertions, which I consider harmful for both my professionalism and my

[discuss] Re: Reason's Why Part-2 (of 4)

2005-12-10 Thread Martin J Hooper
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Re: [discuss] Reason's Why Part-1 (of 3)

2005-12-10 Thread Chad Smith
On 12/10/05, CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat December 10 2005 09:25, Roger Markus wrote: In 1995 Antel, the national telephone company of Uruguay, was caught pirating $100,000 worth of unlicensed software programs from Microsoft, Novell, and Symantec. Any company using

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 14:29:56 PM +0100, Gianluca Turconi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, Marco, I've to object vigorously to your statement because the article's author has committed the worst error in pure Logic, this is to say he has elevated a concept from the particular level (the OOo

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Enrique Castro
Gianluca Turconi wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:50:39 +0100 M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Said this, I find the rest of the article objective. It says things that are actual problems and needed to be said, things which I too was planning to write sometime. Well, Marco, I've to

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Hello Enrique, On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:39:51 + Enrique Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Last but not least, I must agree that bugfixing depends on good QA team. I do not know the internals of this process in OOo. I do not know if currently QA members are Sun employers or volunteers.

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Andrew Brown
M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:20051210065039.GQ31183 @mclink.it: Most software has similar irritations. But complex open source projects seem uniquely badly placed to fix them. They rely on a very small group of programmers relative to the user base, and who have no direct

Re: [discuss] Incubator for vba macros

2005-12-10 Thread Claus Agerskov
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Noel Power wrote: please give your support :-) ( and votes ) +1 -- Claus Agerskov ###= Analyze OpenOffice.org Co-lead/owner #=== Requirements Project Management Tool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design/model Subproject

Re: [discuss] Reason's Why Part-1 (of 3)

2005-12-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Ian Lynch wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 10:38 +, CPHennessy wrote: Now is there some question about OpenOffice.org is this discussion ? The main issue is simply that there is a lot of evidence about that can be used in the promotion of OpenOffice.org. It has to be used carefully but it

Re: [discuss] On the BSA and how to remove competition, was: that damn thread that should be closed, or at least re-titled..

2005-12-10 Thread Lars D . Noodén
Thanks for the English link (the Italian is interesting, too) I am wondering what the BSA and MS are doing in Sweden right now since the BSA is really, really stepping up activities there. Rather than letting them get as far there, it may be useful to try to get the whole organization

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Gianluca Turconi
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:00:53 + Enrique Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think we are talking in the sphere of Pure Logic. It is a reasonable scientific procedure to take a significant and representative example and trying to extract conclusions from that (with all reserves about

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Gianluca Turconi
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:02:33 +0100 M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So, I don't know about Andrew, he'll surely speak for himself, but as far as *I* am concerned I sure can elevate that article to the general level concept status, as I've gathered enough evidence myself in

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Chad Smith
On 12/10/05, Gianluca Turconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, the Issuezilla's Issue is perhaps as old as the OOo project and, IMHO, it doesn't depend on the open source method (as it may seem from the article) but on the working flow used inside Sun (StarDivision) and how to conciliate it

[discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread Roger Markus
There is a solution to the recent problem of the list having gone off the tracks. There should be a moderator, with all incoming mail read by this moderator and either passed, held or deleted. Offensive language, name-calling, and most importantly, Microsoft propaganda should be deleted. The

Re: [discuss] open office

2005-12-10 Thread Max
- Original Message - From: CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@openoffice.org; Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [discuss] open office On Fri November 25 2005 21:43, + Max wrote: [ MODERATED ] Inexperianced

[discuss] Shortcut commands

2005-12-10 Thread C Cichocki
I am trying to get to grips with this programme of yours but I keep coming up against shortcomings.. Here is one that I would like to have fixed.. On every word processor and Page layout package I have used, right back to Mac Plus days, I have been able to select a word, line paragraph or

Re: [discuss] Suggestion for OpenOffice Writer.

2005-12-10 Thread filotheos
Thanks, I tried that, but unfortunately when I highlight a sentence, in order to add a note, the sentence disappears. I use writer 1.1.3. What might be the problem? I am wondering what is the purpose of comment and note if these two kind of overlap. Would it be helpful to merge them under

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Gianluca Turconi wrote: Uhm... I have to point out a thing: I'm a very pragmatic man and I have had a law education. Thus, as I've written to Marco, clues are not evidences for me. They can be used in discussions like these ones, but they have not any real validity when we want to confirm an

Re: [discuss] Incubator for vba macros

2005-12-10 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi Noel Thanks for your proposal and your presentation I'm aware that VBA macros are a problem on a migration and something has to be done. So you're proposal is welcomed Nevertheless, I'm afraid that using VBA paradigm inside OOo will more hurt than solve the problem. VBA has 2 parts : the

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Randomthots
Gianluca Turconi wrote: What I have read in Mr. Brown's article is an attempt to demolish open source assumptions (as he wrote) with other personal assumptions. What I read in Mr. Brown's article was a recognition that the open-source development model championed by Eric S. Raymonds in

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 15:13:48 PM +0100, Gianluca Turconi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Indeed, the Issuezilla's Issue is perhaps as old as the OOo project and, IMHO, it doesn't depend on the open source method (as it may seem from the article) but on the working flow used inside Sun

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 17:23:12 PM +0100, Gianluca Turconi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What I mean is this: before using personal or niche assumptions (per languages or per users group's perceptions, ...) in public texts that have a great resounding impact around the web, let's do thing in a

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 16:13:47 PM +0100, Gianluca Turconi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What you think you've seen in OOo or Novell Evolution are only clues and not evidences of a general problem. No, sorry again. Please remember to not take this personally, but think you've seen my foot. I have

[discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Enrique Castro
Gianluca Turconi wrote: What I mean is this: before using personal or niche assumptions (per languages or per users group's perceptions, ...) in public texts that have a great resounding impact around the web, let's do thing in a professional way: I think these lists are for more or less

Re: [discuss] Shortcut commands

2005-12-10 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:01:16 -, C Cichocki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to get to grips with this programme of yours but I keep coming up against shortcomings.. Here is one that I would like to have fixed.. On every word processor and Page layout package I have used, right

Re: [discuss] Suggestion for OpenOffice Writer.

2005-12-10 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:26:25 -, filotheos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I tried that, but unfortunately when I highlight a sentence, in order to add a note, the sentence disappears. I use writer 1.1.3. What might be the problem? Dont select anything, just insert it. I am

[discuss] Re: Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Andrew Brown
Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: He is not against OOo, he is not against Open Source, and he is by no means a MS plant. He is simply, honestly, and correctly, pointing out several shortcomings in the OOo project, and using that (or should I say *this*) project

Re: [discuss] Lacking OpenOfficeOrg writer facilities

2005-12-10 Thread Andras Szabo
From: CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: discuss@openoffice.org To: discuss@openoffice.org, Andras Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [discuss] Lacking OpenOfficeOrg writer facilities Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:51:21 + Dear Mr. Andrew Brown, As I am not subscribed and so I did not

Re: [discuss] open office

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Sat December 10 2005 16:39, + Max wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** - Original Message - From: CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@openoffice.org; Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [discuss] open office On Fri

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
On Sat December 10 2005 17:07, Roger Markus wrote: There is a solution to the recent problem of the list having gone off the tracks. There should be a moderator, with all incoming mail read by this moderator and either passed, held or deleted. Offensive language, name-calling, and most

Re: [discuss] Suggestion for OpenOffice Writer.

2005-12-10 Thread CPHennessy
Alexandro, Please CC the user as they will not see your responses. Any email where the header Delivered-to has the value moderator means that the user is not subscribed. Thanks CPH On Sat December 10 2005 21:07, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:26:25 -, filotheos [EMAIL

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread Dibya prakash
Hi, This is a good idea.I am ready to volunteer.I can devote around an hours time for the same. Regards Dibya Prakash CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat December 10 2005 17:07, Roger Markus wrote: There is a solution to the recent problem of the list having gone off the

Re: [discuss] Re: Official request for rectification of Mr. Andrew Brown's article

2005-12-10 Thread Jonathon Blake
Enrique wrote: Currently, my impression is that the only channel to OOo developers is isuezilla reporting and votes. I came to the conclusion that votes for issues don't count about two years ago. The issue with the second or third highest number of votes had several comments from developers

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread Paul
I personally think this is a stupid idea. Let me start by saying that I'm not a M$ troll. Don't like the company nor the products, I'm into Open Source and always be. Love OOo and have done so for several years now. However this idea puts this list into the hands of few (that will have there own

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 19:17:24 PM +1300, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I personally think this is a stupid idea. Same here. Please don't, for all the same reasons that Paul mentioned. Not to mention the fact that, on these lists, moderating already means spam regularly subscribed users with

Re: [discuss] Call For Moderation

2005-12-10 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi I personally think this is a stupid idea. Same here. Please don't, for all the same reasons that Paul mentioned. Obviously agree against censorship The best filter if any needed if any needed is time Do not reply Do not feed the trolls Laurent -- Laurent Godard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -