Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-22 Thread Laurent Godard
Hi joerg For the web install, see Mathias' answer. If we support that and make it easy for anyone to upload their macros to an 'official' repository the security risk is really high. I agree (hum almost as i strongly would like a repository :) ), there should be an audit of every macro/addon

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-22 Thread Daniel Carrera
Sophie GAUTIER wrote: If people saw that, I think we would have made a step forward. Part of that is seeing that there is progress going on. You know, seeing light at the end of the tunnel. imho this is what is worked here :) Yes, Joerg has been fantastic. If they can maintain the stability of

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-22 Thread Sophie GAUTIER
Hi Daniel, Daniel Carrera a crit : Sophie GAUTIER wrote: If people saw that, I think we would have made a step forward. Part of that is seeing that there is progress going on. You know, seeing light at the end of the tunnel. imho this is what is worked here :) Yes, Joerg has been fantastic. If

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-21 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Daniel Carrera wrote: Joerg Barfurth wrote: If people really find something they can't live with they can use use our processes to get obstacles removed (like the Community Council or the Engineering steering comittee). But of course, as in any OSS project, if you can't live with project

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-21 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello Joerg, Thank you for your input. It's important to hear the developers' side of the story. But it is something different to criticize a policy and to define a viable replacement that removes the problems. Yes, and that's what I'm trying to do here. Explore options to find a viable

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: To be fair, I do believe a lot of Linux organisations decided long ago it was more effective to focus developer efforts on projects where the patch acceptance ratio was higher (ie GNOME). So contributions are minimalistic now but don't blame people when there are so many

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Justin Clift
Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany wrote: snip Face it: the patch acceptance is not that bad, It's just there are not many patches. Ok. It seems to be that people are saying that patches are generally submitted to the Ximian OOo group, rather than the OOo official group. Um, does anyone have time

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Mer 20 avril 2005 11:04, Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany a écrit : Face it: the patch acceptance is not that bad, It's just there are not many patches. Quoting (from memory) a developper on a Linux list (answering why a feature had reverted to a suboptimal state after being fixed during a

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Sophie GAUTIER
Hi Justin, Justin Clift a crit : Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany wrote: snip Face it: the patch acceptance is not that bad, It's just there are not many patches. Ok. It seems to be that people are saying that patches are generally submitted to the Ximian OOo group, rather than the OOo official

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Sophie and all, progress has been made here with EIS Yes, all discuss@ subscribers may want to take a look at: http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/servlet/GuestLogon Try Child workspaces. :) And why don't you try to subscribe the cws-announce. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will see who

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
who are acting don't find any more time to report about it. Right! I can name some Japanese developers and contributors: Nakata, FreeBSD and Mac OSX porter; Kato, Mac OSX porter; Ono, MinGW porter; Taniguchi, Solaris porter; and more, they are volunteers who contribute patches to OpenOffice.org

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Rich
Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Sophie and all, progress has been made here with EIS Yes, all discuss@ subscribers may want to take a look at: http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/servlet/GuestLogon Try Child workspaces. :) thanks for this link - sometimes only cws is mentioned in the issue, so i

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Joerg Barfurth
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mardi 19 avril 2005 14:11 +, Andrew Brown a crit : Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. If that really was

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 20 avril 2005 18:08 +0200, Joerg Barfurth a crit : Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The atmosphere on ooo lists is so Sun-centric I can understand non-Sun contributors prefer to work through separate projects like Ximian oo.o. Huh? It is a fact that the majority of developer are

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-20 Thread Daniel Carrera
Joerg Barfurth wrote: If people really find something they can't live with they can use use our processes to get obstacles removed (like the Community Council or the Engineering steering comittee). But of course, as in any OSS project, if you can't live with project policies, you have to bite

[discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Brown
Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. If that really was the case wouldn't that mean that a little more than 20% of the features (=

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Rigel
Okay. Hold your horses. Let us not forget one of the most major reasons for SUN open sourcing this project in the first place. To promote competition. If it wasn't open source, StarOffice would most likely still be free to non-commercal customers. I think SUN's biggest concern was communicating

[discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Brown
Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. Well, I started poking around on Google and found a web chat from 2001, nine months after OOo had

Re: [discuss] Re: Has sun sacked half its developers?

2005-04-19 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
HI, Erwin Tenhumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some people might interpret the article in a way that the ration between Sun and non-Sun developers is something like 50:14. Well, I started poking around on Google and found a web chat from 2001, nine months after OOo