Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Saturday, December 10, 2016, Wes Turner wrote: > Here are some standardized (conda) package versions: https://github.com/ > jupyter/docker-stacks/blob/master/scipy-notebook/Dockerfile > > IDK how they choose packages - what "criteria for inclusion" - for the

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 16 December 2016 at 14:29, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > On Dec 15, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > At the beginning of your story you mentioned the GUI client - *that* is > the missing piece ;). I've been saying for years that we need a

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 16 December 2016 at 05:50, Paul Moore > wrote: > > On 15 December 2016 at 19:13, Wes Turner > wrote: > >>> Just to add my POV, I also find your

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > >> On Dec 15, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz > > wrote: >> >> User-curated package sets strikes me as the _lowest_ priority feature out of >> all of those

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > User-curated package sets strikes me as the _lowest_ priority feature out of > all of those I don’t think anyone in the PyPA is planning on working on this currently. It was a possible idea that was spawned

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 16 December 2016 at 07:14, Glyph Lefkowitz > wrote: >> On Dec 15, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Donald Stufft > > wrote: >>

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 16 December 2016 at 07:14, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > On Dec 15, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > Theoretically we could allow people to not just select packages, but also > package specifiers for their “curated package set”, so instead of

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 16 December 2016 at 05:50, Paul Moore wrote: > On 15 December 2016 at 19:13, Wes Turner wrote: >>> Just to add my POV, I also find your posts unhelpful, Wes. There's not >>> enough information for me to evaluate what you say, and you offer no >>>

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: > > >> On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Steve Dower > > wrote: >> >> The "curated package sets" on PyPI idea sounds a bit like Steam's curator >> lists, which I like to

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 15 December 2016 at 19:13, Wes Turner wrote: >> Just to add my POV, I also find your posts unhelpful, Wes. There's not >> enough information for me to evaluate what you say, and you offer no >> actual solutions to what's being discussed. > > > I could quote myself

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Paul Moore wrote: > On 15 December 2016 at 15:58, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > > On 16 December 2016 at 01:38, Wes Turner > wrote: > >> On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 16 December 2016 at 01:38, Wes Turner > wrote: > > On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > >> This answer hasn't changed the last

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 15 December 2016 at 15:58, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 16 December 2016 at 01:38, Wes Turner wrote: >> On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> This answer hasn't changed the last dozen times you've brought up >>>

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 16 December 2016 at 01:38, Wes Turner wrote: > On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> This answer hasn't changed the last dozen times you've brought up >> JSON-LD. It isn't *going* to change. So please stop bringing it up. > > > No,

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Wes Turner wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > >> On 16 December 2016 at 00:39, Donald Stufft wrote: >> >

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 16 December 2016 at 00:57, Wes Turner > wrote: > > This would be a graph. JSONLD? > > #PEP426JSONLD: > > - https://www.google.com/search?q=pep426jsonld > > -

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 16 December 2016 at 00:39, Donald Stufft > wrote: > > Theoretically we could allow people to not just select packages, but also > > package specifiers for their “curated package set”,

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 16 December 2016 at 00:57, Wes Turner wrote: > This would be a graph. JSONLD? > #PEP426JSONLD: > - https://www.google.com/search?q=pep426jsonld > - https://github.com/pypa/interoperability-peps/issues/31 > > With JSONLD, we could merge SoftwarePackage metadata with >

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> Theoretically we could allow people to not just select packages, but also package specifiers for their “curated package set”, so instead of saying “requests”, you could say “requests~=2.12” or “requests==2.12.2”. If we really wanted to get slick we could even provide a requirements.txt file

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Wes Turner wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Donald Stufft > wrote: > >> >> On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Steve Dower wrote: >> >> The

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On 16 December 2016 at 00:39, Donald Stufft wrote: > Theoretically we could allow people to not just select packages, but also > package specifiers for their “curated package set”, so instead of saying > “requests”, you could say “requests~=2.12” or “requests==2.12.2”. If we >

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

On Thursday, December 15, 2016, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Steve Dower > wrote: > > The "curated package sets" on PyPI idea sounds a bit like Steam's curator > lists,

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

The "curated package sets" on PyPI idea sounds a bit like Steam's curator lists, which I like to think of as Twitter for game reviews. You can follow a curator to see their comments on particular games, and the most popular curators have their comments appear on the actual listings too. Might

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Steve Dower wrote: > > The "curated package sets" on PyPI idea sounds a bit like Steam's curator > lists, which I like to think of as Twitter for game reviews. You can follow a > curator to see their comments on particular games, and the

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

> On Dec 15, 2016, at 7:13 AM, Freddy Rietdijk wrote: > > > Putting the conclusion first, I do see value in better publicising > > "Recommended libraries" based on some automated criteria like: > > Yes, we should recommend third-party libraries in a trusted place like

Re: [Distutils] Maintaining a curated set of Python packages

It's interesting to read about how other distributions upgrade their package sets. In Nixpkgs most packages are updated manually. Some frameworks/languages provide their dependencies declarative, in which case it becomes 'straightforward' to include whole package sets, like in the case of Haskell.