My point is I don't think enough pieces are in place to force everyone over
to --no-isolation to get by if they don't set up pyproject.toml as you're
suggesting they be required to. IOW I think you're advocating something
that's going to alienate people by pushing too hard.
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 1
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, 00:45 Brett Cannon, wrote:
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> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 10:47 Pradyun Gedam wrote:
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>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 21:11 Paul Moore, wrote:
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>>> On 16 July 2018 at 15:56, Pradyun Gedam wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 20:16 Brett Cannon, wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I wi
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
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> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:22 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
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>> 1. If [build-system] is present but requires is missing, raise an error.
>> 2. If [build-system] is missing, they can take one of the following
>> two approaches:
>> a) Act as if pypro
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> * How do you achieve faster hot start times with XAR over native file
> system? That's a bit unexpected, although based on our shiv work, I can
> imagine some things about how you start Python or lay out the code that
> might provide better h
Hi Barry,
I'm aware of shiv, thus my "and other zip based distribution methods."
Also, you're welcome to come and meet and greet with XAR people if you want to
know all the ins and outs here on campus. We're not far away + I'm always in
pypa-dev + can use that Twitter thing :)
Specific answers
Cooper Ry Lees wrote on 7/13/18 13:51:
Today Facebook Open Sourced a competitor to PEX and other zip based
distribution methods for Python (and potentially other languages). Basically
it's claim to fame is start up time for large modules being similar to regular
on file system modules due to
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 10:47 Pradyun Gedam wrote:
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> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 21:11 Paul Moore, wrote:
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>> On 16 July 2018 at 15:56, Pradyun Gedam wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 20:16 Brett Cannon, wrote:
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>> >> I will update the PEP and add you as a reviewer, Paul (might not get
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> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:22 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
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> 1. If [build-system] is present but requires is missing, raise an error.
> 2. If [build-system] is missing, they can take one of the following
> two approaches:
> a) Act as if pyproject.toml is missing altogether
> b) Act as if [build-syst
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 21:11 Paul Moore, wrote:
> On 16 July 2018 at 15:56, Pradyun Gedam wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 20:16 Brett Cannon, wrote:
> >>
> >> I will update the PEP and add you as a reviewer, Paul (might not get to
> it
> >> until Friday, though).
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 201
On 16 July 2018 at 15:56, Pradyun Gedam wrote:
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> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 20:16 Brett Cannon, wrote:
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>> I will update the PEP and add you as a reviewer, Paul (might not get to it
>> until Friday, though).
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 02:23 Paul Moore, wrote:
>>>
>>> The discussion on this appear
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 20:16 Brett Cannon, wrote:
> I will update the PEP and add you as a reviewer, Paul (might not get to it
> until Friday, though).
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 02:23 Paul Moore, wrote:
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>> The discussion on this appears to have died down.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, the consensu
I will update the PEP and add you as a reviewer, Paul (might not get to it
until Friday, though).
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 02:23 Paul Moore, wrote:
> The discussion on this appears to have died down.
>
> As far as I can tell, the consensus is essentially:
>
> 1. It should be legal for pyproject.tom
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 16 July 2018 at 11:05, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> > My proposal was 2a ;-). And that's still my inclination, as we've got
> > examples of people using pyproject.toml for unrelated purposes that
> > shouldn't affect how the package is built.
On 16 July 2018 at 11:05, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
>> My inclination would be to recommend 2b. I said that before checking
>> whether that was your proposal or Nathaniel's ;-), and it's based
>> mostly on gut feel and "that's what pip does now an
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> My inclination would be to recommend 2b. I said that before checking
> whether that was your proposal or Nathaniel's ;-), and it's based
> mostly on gut feel and "that's what pip does now and I don't see any
> reason to change it" though.
My p
On 16 July 2018 at 10:45, Thomas Kluyver wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
>> 2. If [build-system] is missing, they can take one of the following
>> two approaches:
>>a) Act as if pyproject.toml is missing altogether
>>b) Act as if [build-system] is present, wit
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> 2. If [build-system] is missing, they can take one of the following
> two approaches:
>a) Act as if pyproject.toml is missing altogether
>b) Act as if [build-system] is present, with a requires value of
> ["setuptools", "wheel"]
>
> Wh
The discussion on this appears to have died down.
As far as I can tell, the consensus is essentially:
1. It should be legal for pyproject.toml to *not* contain a
[build-system] section.
2. If a [build-system] section is present, the requires key must be present.
Tools should behave as follows:
On 13/07/2018 05:40, Nitin Thakur wrote:
SSL-CERTIFICATE-VERIFICATION FAILED while installing packages using pip command.
...
Over the weekend Matthew Brett did a fix to the manylinux test image that fixed this issue in the test phase of the manylinux 3.7
process. The 'fix' involved pip i
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