to the community that other
imbalances are important and will be dealt with separately.
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Prof. Dr. Hernan A. Bruno | University of Cologne
*From: *Myrle Krantz
*Date: *Friday, 3. May 2019 at 10:21
*To: *"Bruno, Hernan"
*Subject: *Re: Revamping the ASF Committer Divers
in
Western Europe with Arabic or Turkish origins for example).
Best Regards,
Myrle
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From: Bruno, Hernan
Date: Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Revamping the ASF Committer Diversity Survey
To: Myrle Krantz
Hello Myrle,
I wrote that comment very
Sharan - thank you so much for sharing this.
I went ahead and started the following Design Doc[1] for the survey. The
objective is to give structure and cadence to the survey publishing. I see this
as a release and we can approach it as such.
Right now, I need help getting into the survey
On 14/04/2019 06:02, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> Here's one action item I'd like to put for someone to take:
> We need a new wiki page for Diversity & Inclusion, I'd like to add the v1.0
> of the committer diversity survey design doc to it, who could take on this?
> Jira - (DI-3):
>
This may be an uncomfortable issue to bring up, but, in general, we are not
an "outreach" organization. That is, our charter is not to foster open source,
nor do direct outreach, etc... it is to create open source software for the
public good.
Now, OF COURSE, these sorts of efforts are part of
> On Apr 14, 2019, at 1:02 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Understanding diversity in potential committers is important, specially to
> know if efforts such as outreach, mentoring and "grooming" are the source
> of our low diversity.
Agreed.
This may be an uncomfortable issue
Hi Gris
Please see my responses inline.
On 2019/04/09 22:58:48, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> Hi folks - I'd like to kick start the revamp of the ASF Committer Diversity
> Survey. As agreed in the thread "On Meritocracy" sent to the ComDev lists
> [1], we want to revamp the survey in order to
Hi All,
Understanding diversity in potential committers is important, specially to
know if efforts such as outreach, mentoring and "grooming" are the source
of our low diversity. However, I believe this is out of scope for a *Committer
Diversity Survey*.
Measuring the funnel is *very *important
On 4/13/2019 11:02 AM, Joan Touzet wrote:
On 2019-04-13 2:37 a.m., Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Rich, Myrle – both of you made great points. I especially think non-code
contributions are critical and generally go unrecognized. They are
equally as important.
Regarding gathering data about individuals
On 2019-04-13 2:37 a.m., Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Rich, Myrle – both of you made great points. I especially think non-code
contributions are critical and generally go unrecognized. They are
equally as important.
Regarding gathering data about individuals being nominated, perhaps
sending a survey to
Rich, Myrle – both of you made great points. I especially think non-code
contributions are critical and generally go unrecognized. They are
equally as important.
Regarding gathering data about individuals being nominated, perhaps
sending a survey to the PMC Chairs to gather the stats, would
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 3:32 PM Rich Bowen wrote:
> Your suggestion of surveying non-committer Github contributors certainly
> has merit, but, having tried to gather that kind of data in the past
> (ie, actual contact info for contributors to an open source project,
> based on Github names),
Hi All
Ack. Will aim to respond to the points requested over the weekend unless
someone else beats me to it.
Thanks
Sharan
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019, 00:59 Griselda Cuevas, wrote:
> Hi folks - I'd like to kick start the revamp of the ASF Committer
> Diversity Survey. As agreed in the thread "On
>
> > I think there might be better ways to understand the funnel, using
> Kibble.
>
> What is Kibble? I am not familiar with it.
>
https://kibble.apache.org/ Go play with it. It is the best way to
understand it. There's a live demo under demo.kibble... that already has
data loaded for
> On Apr 10, 2019, at 2:45 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how to reach contributors who are not committers unless we're
> talking about mailing the dev lists of all the projects. People have done
> this before, and the backlash it generates is larger each time. Made worse
> by the
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:39 AM Dinesh Joshi
wrote:
> I have a dumb question, please bear with me. Will this survey reveal
> answers to the following questions –
>
> 1. How diverse are the contributors that are not committers yet?
>
Unless it is changed, no it will not. Only committers were
I have a dumb question, please bear with me. Will this survey reveal answers to
the following questions –
1. How diverse are the contributors that are not committers yet?
2. How diverse are the contributors being nominated for committership?
I think, that will help understanding the funnel.
Here's the last time this was discussed in 2018:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d286be73692809e9fc71e90970b43319b36c4588b17eeb23fecc132b@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
There are some good suggestions on that thread.
Best,
Myrle
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 12:59 AM Griselda Cuevas
wrote:
>
Hi folks - I'd like to kick start the revamp of the ASF Committer Diversity
Survey. As agreed in the thread "On Meritocracy" sent to the ComDev lists
[1], we want to revamp the survey in order to inform our Diversity and
Inclusion strategy.
@Sharan - I believe you were the lead on this effort
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