Re: [dmarc-ietf] Header munging, not ARC, can solve the mailing list problem

2020-06-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 2:53:22 PM EDT ned+dm...@mrochek.com wrote: > > In article you write: > > >I for one am always amazed how much people use web forums, which are > > >almost > > >all universally worse at providing a reading interface or keeping people > > >up-to-date on new messages...

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Header munging, not ARC, can solve the mailing list problem

2020-06-16 Thread ned+dmarc
> In article > you > write: > >I for one am always amazed how much people use web forums, which are almost > >all universally worse at providing a reading interface or keeping people > >up-to-date on new messages... which might be why most of the one's I look > >at are nearly dead, maybe there

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Header munging, not ARC, can solve the mailing list problem

2020-06-16 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >I for one am always amazed how much people use web forums, which are almost >all universally worse at providing a reading interface or keeping people >up-to-date on new messages... which might be why most of the one's I look >at are nearly dead, maybe there are better ones

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC Policy Boundary Conditions - making DMARC protocol complete.

2020-06-16 Thread Brandon Long
So you think we should include https://wiki.asrg.sp.am/wiki/Mitigating_DMARC_damage_to_third_party_mail in the actual spec? Brandon On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:26 AM Hector Santos wrote: > Hi Brandon, some quick points: > > 1) I was 100% concentrating on the technical protocol aspects to make >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Header munging, not ARC, can solve the mailing list problem

2020-06-16 Thread Brandon Long
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:01 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 7:09 AM wrote: > > Thanks for you honesty. Then the relevant question is whether open and > > interoperable standards still matter, or if they should be replaced by > > proprietary web apps one feature at a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC Policy Boundary Conditions - making DMARC protocol complete.

2020-06-16 Thread Hector Santos
Hi Brandon, some quick points: 1) I was 100% concentrating on the technical protocol aspects to make DMARC protocol complete. DMARC is currently not protocol complete. It does not address the failure scenarios related to 3rd party re(signers). It left loopholes that need to be closed. The

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Header munging, not ARC, can solve the mailing list problem

2020-06-16 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 7:09 AM wrote: > Thanks for you honesty. Then the relevant question is whether open and > interoperable standards still matter, or if they should be replaced by > proprietary web apps one feature at a time. Both have been around for a long time now and I've seen no