Re: [dmarc-ietf] Been Quiet Around Here - Org Domain? Tree Walk?

2022-03-17 Thread Douglas Foster
In the general case, we allow for this possible configuration: public suffix domain segments organization domain for public registration organization subdomains of the organization registration point for private registration clients organization domain for private registration clients

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis and Standard Track

2022-03-17 Thread John Levine
It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy said: >The status we're going for is "Proposed Standard". Note the word >"Proposed"; a document seeking this status doesn't need to be bulletproof ... I would expect a great deal of institutional pushback at a change directly from informational to full

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis and Standard Track

2022-03-17 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
Sigh... On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:50 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > The status we're going for is "Proposed Standard". Note the word > "Proposed"; a document seeking this status doesn't need to be bulletproof > out the door, as some evolution based on experience is required. The > standard

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis and Standard Track

2022-03-17 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:13 PM Dotzero wrote: > My understanding when the DMARCbis effort was spun up was that we were > trying to move it to Standard Track. Is this still the goal? A number of > experimental things are currently being included. This would seem to > preclude DMARC being on

[dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis and Standard Track

2022-03-17 Thread Dotzero
My understanding when the DMARCbis effort was spun up was that we were trying to move it to Standard Track. Is this still the goal? A number of experimental things are currently being included. This would seem to preclude DMARC being on Standard Track. If the experimental items being discussed

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Been Quiet Around Here - Org Domain? Tree Walk?

2022-03-17 Thread John Levine
It appears that Alessandro Vesely said: >> To find the org domain for a domain: >>chop the domain to the last five labels and walk up the tree. >>stop when you find a DMARC record with psd or you hit the root. >>if a record has psd=n, that's the org domain >>if a record has psd=y

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Been Quiet Around Here - Org Domain? Tree Walk?

2022-03-17 Thread Todd Herr
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:27 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > I'll take another shot at it, but I'm unlikely to finish it tonight. > > I've been working to incorporate the proposed text that Scott submitted the other day, and following along with the discussion since, and I think I've got a new

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Data Query: Non-existent subdomains

2022-03-17 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 16/Mar/2022 03:10:03 +0100 Douglas Foster wrote: I started from the assumption that we would want to generalize NP into organizations.   But after spending a lot of time on the subject for the last 15 months, I am convinced that it is not needed. Assume that a university or other

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Been Quiet Around Here - Org Domain? Tree Walk?

2022-03-17 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 17/Mar/2022 04:02:00 +0100 John Levine wrote: It appears that Scott Kitterman said: It took a fair amount of editing and I expect you all will have further suggestions, so instead of getting up to my elbows in XML, I took the published DMARCbis-05 text and updated it directly. The