Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-13 Thread Jesse Thompson
On 11/12/20 5:06 PM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:58 PM Jesse Thompson > mailto:40wisc@dmarc.ietf.org>> > wrote: > > On 11/12/20 3:23 PM, John Levine wrote: > > You now can put a DMARC > > record on a name below the org domain to shadow a subtree, but I do

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-13 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 12/Nov/2020 22:31:25 +0100 Dave Crocker wrote: On 11/12/2020 1:23 PM, John Levine wrote: The semantics are definitely not the same. You now can put a DMARC record on a name below the org domain to shadow a subtree, that's why the group should first focus on the semantics it wants/doesn

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread John Levine
In article <4266a992-7064-d8cd-660b-a3d1d4098...@wisc.edu> you write: >On 11/12/20 3:23 PM, John Levine wrote: >> You now can put a DMARC >> record on a name below the org domain to shadow a subtree, but I don't >> think that is a problem that needs to be solved. > >I'm confused by this statement.

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:58 PM Jesse Thompson wrote: > On 11/12/20 3:23 PM, John Levine wrote: > > You now can put a DMARC > > record on a name below the org domain to shadow a subtree, but I don't > > think that is a problem that needs to be solved. > > I'm confused by this statement. Are you

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread Jesse Thompson
On 11/12/20 3:23 PM, John Levine wrote: > You now can put a DMARC > record on a name below the org domain to shadow a subtree, but I don't > think that is a problem that needs to be solved. I'm confused by this statement. Are you saying that you can "now" do subtree shadowing with sp? as in the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread Dave Crocker
On 11/12/2020 1:23 PM, John Levine wrote: The semantics are definitely not the same. You now can put a DMARC record on a name below the org domain to shadow a subtree, that's why the group should first focus on the semantics it wants/doesn't want, independent of how the semantics are achieved

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread John Levine
In article <5bc82960-70a4-3ce2-4e3d-a39dd9743...@wisc.edu> you write: >If tree walking is a thing that comes to fruition, what does it mean for a >domain to be an organizational >domain (in reference to the idea that the DMARC spec will just point to >another doc to determine the org >domain)? A

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread Jesse Thompson
On 11/12/20 10:30 AM, John Levine wrote: > In article > you > write: >> As another case, would people be surprised that email for the medical >> center cumc.columbia.edu is a separate system managed by a separate IT >> group from columbia.edu, and that any authentication for one should not be >>

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Organizational domains, threat or menace, was On splitting documents and DBOUND

2020-11-12 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >As another case, would people be surprised that email for the medical >center cumc.columbia.edu is a separate system managed by a separate IT >group from columbia.edu, and that any authentication for one should not be >applied to the other? I don't think this is unique in