On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 11:26:12AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Now that the proof of concept is out, I am thinking about extending it a
> little bit.
You use the spellings user-services, userservices, and userservice.
Is there actually a difference in meaning between these? Or
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 09:15:12AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2019-04-22 01:18, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> >
> > If I was to lose faith in Devuan, which I'm now invested in, then I
> > would consider the following, especially ahead of Debian (unless I
> > wished to return with systemd).
>
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 05:21:48AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > Following common understanding with other caretakers and parallel to
> > the work on the conference documentation, I have started this website,
> > soon to be
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:35:35PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
...
> >
> > Following common understanding with other caretakers and parallel to
> > the work on the conference documentation, I have started t
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 06:09:46PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:24:39AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > Do we want to emphasise purely "sans-systemd", or do we want to pro
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Friday 12 April 2019 at 00:53:40, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > I suggest we pass the following resolution:
> >
> > ===
> > At Devuan we prioritize benefits to individual users over
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:51:39AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> Fine. I accept your apologies Dan, but still believe this is not
> enough, now we have lost a major contributor and are in need of
> finding both sustainability and reliable agency. I am fully committed
> to the continued success of
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:06:14AM +, chillfan--- via Dng wrote:
>
> There are many of us frustrated with web browsers and the web in general,
Is there anything that can be done about this?
Browsers seem to be an all-or-nothing kind of nonmodularity.
Yet they should have components that
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 02:42:19PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> dear readers,
>
> Here is the final program of the upcoming Devuan conference, starting
> tomorrow afternoon (Friday 5 April 2019) at 16:00 CET and continuing
> through all the weekend.
>
> The location of the event is marked as
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 08:37:43PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> Apologies for the tardy response but I'm on my way to AMS atm and don't own
> a mobile device to keep current.
Sadly, I won't be meeting any of you in AMS next weekend. I'm rooted
to Montreal for medical reasons.
-- hendrik
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 12:55:34PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sun March 31 2019 12:36:44 Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > You are over-reacting on April Fools joke.
>
> Whether or not a joke, all admins MUST assume the worst and
> rebuild from trusted sources. Even if the jokers had not
> intended a
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 01:35:30AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 12:21:58AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Just to let you know that Devuan's caretakers got anonymous emails
> > from a group who identified themselves as "Green Hat Hackers". They
> > insisted on the
I've done the upgrade, and I'm posting this here so as to have the
problems on the record. Over the ast month I haven't been able to post
any of this properly (I've been seriously ill) and I'm afraid it will
slip further if I wait until I can produce a full and perfect report.
(1) backspace
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 09:15:52AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 01:10:12 -0400, Steve wrote in message
> <20190315011012.14cfc...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
>
> ...whenever you stick anything into that box in front of you.
>
> ..now, some of us also play with boxes far away over
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:45:08AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:43:44AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > By the way, how did you detect insertion? Were you using dmesg
> > --follow ?
> >
>
> Much easier than that: since I am normally the only person who
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:30:41AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Let me also agree with both of you. When I rant against Dbus, gvfs and
> watever entanglement, it's not to express the will that Devuan tries to
> eradicate them. It's just to tell that *I* aim to eradicate them from *my
> own
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 07:57:20PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:14:25PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
> > >
> > > Sudden
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 05:10:06AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:54:34PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > >
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:54:34PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > > Then, you won't have any
> > > "desktop integration" which seem
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:14:25PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
> >
> > Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line
> > while reading a t
After upgrading to beowulf, there are several changes in LXQt:
The background desktop image has disappeared. Instead, I have a solid
black background.
The clock has disappeared from the activity bar at the bottom.
These may be intended changes that just need reconfiguring, but are
I have just upgraded to beowulf from ascii.
Suddently mutt will not accept a backspace to scroll upwards one line
while reading a text email.
However, on the help page, mut still maintains that backspace means to
scroll upwards one line.
-- hendrik
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> Then, you won't have any
> "desktop integration" which seems to be a "must" for many users today,
> but I can assure that life goes on either way.
What *is* that "desktop integration" that those users want?
-- hendrik
>
> We can only
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:42:49PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Do I just have to do aptitude install elogind?
> >
>
> Just try:
>
> # apt-get install libelogind0
>
&g
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 02:10:10PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan.
> The
> packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mirrors within an
> hour.
>
> The Big News in this release is that, thanks
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:17:39PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:31:06PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > > Is beowulf alr
On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 02:34:28AM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> Oh, my . . . how fast and how hard Debian has fallen . . I am all for
> shining light into dark, dank places. What a terrific idea to track
> down all the offending packages that are "leaking" information and then
> publish
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:31:06PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary
> > user on a laptop? Except maybe a few
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 01:58:03PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?
&
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
>
> KatolaZ wrote on 7/3/19 9:30 am:
> > Bug report to bugs.devuan.org, please. This is something we definitely
> > need to pin down and fix. Thanks Ralph!
>
> Yes, though I just discovered it on my system, and whilst I
On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 11:15:03PM +0100, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> hendrik:
> > Currently booting from a 750G BIOS-partitioned disk.
> > Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT partitioned.
> >
> > With grub-install I get errors:
> >
> > april:/farhome/hendrik# grub-install
On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 11:04:54PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 02-03-19 23:02, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 16:06:51 -0500
> > Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >> Currently booting from a 750G BIOS-partitioned disk.
> >>
On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 10:14:57PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Saturday 02 March 2019 at 22:06:51, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT partitioned.
>
> > Installing for i386-pc platform.
>
> That seems like a bi
Currently booting from a 750G BIOS-partitioned disk.
Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT partitioned.
With grub-install I get errors:
april:/farhome/hendrik# grub-install /dev/sda
Installing for i386-pc platform.
grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:16:08AM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output,
> > > therefore it needs to
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 08:57:25PM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> Il giorno lunedì 18/02/2019 23:44:01 +0100
> Didier Kryn ha scritto:
>
> > Le 18/02/2019 à 23:38, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > > Please upgrade your systemd packages :P
> >
> > It's automatic and unattended on Devuan (~:
>
>
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 01:50:31PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> In general, in a server environment an admin wants to make sure that
> an upgrade actually does not stop the running services from doing
> their job as planned. Especially if there are customisations and/or
> other hacks put in place to
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 06:02:52AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:25AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
> >
> >
> > https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
> &
I just found the following comment on Soylent News:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1=30051=1=799766#commentwrap
> As of Debian 9 (Stretch) both the unattended-upgrades and
> apt-listchanges packages are installed by default and upgrades are
> enabled with the GNOME desktop.
On Tue, Jan 01, 2019 at 10:03:29PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2019-01-01 21:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> > The degree of attentiveness we now
> > demand in our workplaces has been a positive trait for only a
> > couple centuries, and genetics hasn't caught up. So blame is
> >
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 08:49:34PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 01/02/19 at 11:19, KatolaZ wrote:
> > [about 100 lines cut off]
>
>
> Jeez, that many? My wife was right that I got to bed too late
> yesterday night!
>
>
> > Are you willing to help with enabling s6/s6-rc in Devuan?
Where should I get the installer for the beowulf version that needs to
be tested now? I plan to install it on a spare partition of my hard
drive and hope the installed dual boot still recognises my existing
ascii partition. I will *not* be using a virtual machine.
I can test on two systems
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:49:25AM -0600, hal wrote:
>
>
> On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem
> > when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian?
>
>
> Yeah, my concern is that adding the
I have firefox up with a number of tabs.
I shut wifi off on my Purism laptop by shutting off power to the radio.
I start up a new tab by clicking on '+'.
I ask to look at file:///home/hendrik by typing in the url bar.
Nothing happens. It's frozen.
I try file:///
Nothing happens either.
I turn
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 01:37:17AM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
>
> I don't see what sound has to do with that. Gotta have that video stream?
If you're a video journalist, yes.
-- hendrik
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On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:42:15AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 22/01/19 at 00:08, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> > https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/01/21/042251
> >
> > “Michael Biebl, long-time maintainer of systemd for Debian (2010 or
> > earlier, based on
It looks as if about a week from now I'll be at a debian bug-squashing
party near where I live as a complete distro-level-developer newbie.
It seemed reasonable because Debian and Devuan will mostly have the
same bugs.
I expect to deal with bugs that aren't involved with systemd, since I
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 14:02:00 -0800
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > [insert ironic comment here.]
>
>
> Surprising details from the original report:
>
> | CVE-2018-16864 was introduced in April 2013 (systemd v203) and became
> |
On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 10:04:19PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 06, 2019 at 01:10:04PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > Well, it *was* 32G. That takes a while just to read *once*.
>
> Hint: in almost any rescue operation, the recommended first step is t
On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 11:26:43AM +0200, Eric Pozharski wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 01, 2019 at 06:22:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> *SKIP*
> > I tried magicrescue. But it kept finding many many starts for mp3
> > files, and running a script for each one to see if it was re
On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 10:34:21AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> On the other hand, I personally think that an installation guide
> should be a "layered" document: the main thread being the "usual"
> install path with only the necessary details, and links to further
> information about specific
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 11:14:07PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 08:02:05 -0500, Hendrik wrote in message
> >
> > THose interested in looking into the development of consciousness
> > further should probably start by reading "The Strange Order of
> > Thinkg" by Antonio Damasio.
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 19:04:32 -0800
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Yes, but in a "how to do it" document (like documentation on a distro's
> install procedure), once you've articulated the steps and substeps and
> what could go wrong and how to deal with it, you're done. Any requests
> for further info,
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 09:34:16AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Do I understand correctly that WxHexEdit can edit directories in place?
It did. On a VFAT file system on an SDHC card.
I suspect if it had been a btrfs file system I might have had trouble
with the checksum, though.
--
Starting new OT thread:
n Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 07:42:51AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 02:50:27PM +0300, Andres Suarez wrote:
> > В Ср, 02/01/2019 в 00:48 -0600, goli...@dyne.org пишет:
> > > On 2019-01-01 23:46, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
> >
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 02:50:27PM +0300, Andres Suarez wrote:
> В Ср, 02/01/2019 в 00:48 -0600, goli...@dyne.org пишет:
> > On 2019-01-01 23:46, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:
> > > On 02/01/2019, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> > > > On 2019-01-01 21:37, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > > The degree of
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:23:14PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on my Devuan system.
> I munted it with a simpel mount /dev/sdb1 /nedia/hendrik/
>
> It reads almost everything fine, except for a few files whose names
> contain
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 08:23:36PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 15:49:03 +0700, Андрей wrote in message
> <20181230114858.mugw7...@smtp4p.mail.yandex.net>:
>
> > Приветствую.
> >
> >
> > В Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:19:14 +0100, ты писал(а):
> >
> > > I only cared about video
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 08:06:52PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> What they've down with the list (and I've seen it with other lists
> too) is: if the mail matches some criteria, then the originator's
> address is replaced with the list address and a reply to header is
> added. Thus for those
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 08:49:32PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > I *hate* the way that the Google Groups mailing lists refuse to
> > include the mailing-list headers so you cannot just
> > reply-to-list.
>
> *glyph
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:17:41PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> Nice thought, but do you really think that the likes of Google give a sh*t
> about some little mailing list somewhere, and which should be using Google's
> services anyway - how dare they use their own solution !
> The reality
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 03:28:18PM +, vsnsdua...@memeware.net wrote:
>
> Additionally the CoC regime itself is a license terms violation, being an
> additional restrictive term, as explained in the other analysis. (Similar to
> the GRSecurity license violation)
Actually, no. It has no
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 09:45:47AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hendrik Boom - 23.12.18, 04:15:
> > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 02:35:35AM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer
> Córdoba wrote:
> > > Hi Hendrik,
> > >
> > > El Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:20:22 -0
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 02:35:35AM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba
wrote:
> Hi Hendrik,
>
> El Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:20:22 -0500
> Hendrik Boom escribió:
>
> > > > > Rename them.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. 'ls -i' #Gets the ino
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 02:35:35AM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba
wrote:
> Hi Hendrik,
>
> El Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:20:22 -0500
> Hendrik Boom escribió:
>
> > > > > Rename them.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. 'ls -i' #Gets the ino
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:24:24PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> > > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> > >
> > > > I have
Let me thank everyone for their advice; it looks as if I have enough
ideas to try out now. I'll do that when I'm fully awake an report back
on what worked.
-- hendrik
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:23:14PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 11:37:32AM +, Adam Sampson via Dng wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
>
> > -? ? ? ? ?? 07/TRA~1.MP3
>
> As others have said, / isn't a valid character in Windows filenames, so
> finding a Windows machine probabl
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:37:44AM +, marc wrote:
> Hello:
>
> > -? ? ? ? ?? 07/TRA~1.MP3
>
> > With the slash, it can't even figure out the permissions, ownership, or
> > file size. Preumably some parts of the system interpret the '/' as the
> >
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 05:15:55PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi Hendrik,
>
> Hendrik Boom writes:
>
> > I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on my Devuan system.
> > I munted it with a simpel mount /dev/sdb1 /nedia/hendrik/
>
> You might want
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:24:24PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on my Devuan system.
> > I munted it with a simpel mount /dev/sdb1 /nedia/hendrik/
> >
> > It reads
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:00:00PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-12-21 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas here other than begging, borrowing, or
> > buying a Windows system
I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on my Devuan system.
I munted it with a simpel mount /dev/sdb1 /nedia/hendrik/
It reads almost everything fine, except for a few files whose names
contain '/' characters. I can handle the other horribly weird
characters in file names -- emacs
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 04:33:32AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> I forgot the details why, but during the process I resorted to a small
> Debian partition. Every piece of hardware was supported perfectly,
> including even that machine's USB wifi card.
I've found a Linux partition is essential
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:09:29AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:33:30 +0100 (CET)
> k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>
> > With all this discussion about installing procedures, why do we need
> > to reboot during reboot ?
> >
> > Couldn't one boot the install media like an initram
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 06:36:30PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> Yeah but all the partitioner questions can be asked before the action is
> committed. Not that mkfs takes a noticeable amount of time anyway...
Can be ... at present I don't think you can start defining partitions
in a RAID or
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 04:29:25PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> On 18/12/2018 13:19, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:51:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:28:43 +0100
> >> KatolaZ wrote:
> >
> >> Also, H
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:51:53PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:28:43 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
> Also, Hendrik is right: If the bootable installer
> finds information, it should be saved for the secondary installer to
> use.
It would be enough if the software the bootable
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 01:28:43PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 07:08:10AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > > g4sra via Dng wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Media partitioning, formatting
> > > > > Co
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 11:10:20AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 08:19:31PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:36:45 +
> > g4sra via Dng wrote:
> >
> > > Media partitioning, formatting
> > > Configure mountpoints
> > > Install Bootloader
> > > Install
I've started to see a few public wifi sites that actually don't require
you to log in with a browser. They let you enter a password as a part
of the normal, official protocol for talking to the access point.
The rest are a problem with the increasing paranoia of browsers against
sites
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 07:26:52PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 01:17:52PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Looking for free software recommendats for managing a few small mailing
> > lists.
> >
> > Typically these will be for small gro
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 07:26:52PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 01:17:52PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Looking for free software recommendats for managing a few small mailing
> > lists.
> >
> > Typically these will be for small gro
Looking for free software recommendats for managing a few small mailing
lists.
Typically these will be for small groups of about five to twenty
subscribers, averaging one to five messages a day.
Especially desired: simplicity and small footprint software.
I'm currently using entries in
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 04:26:23PM -0500, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> This is a much less expensive mATX variant of the TALOS 2 from the same
> people.
>
> It runs both little and big endian so both ppc64 and ppc64le and
> supports POWER-KVM/POWER-IOMMU/IOMMU-GFX for DMA protection and to
> attach
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 01:30:53PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Compiling a kernel locally to include inline essential hardware drivers
> is so simple I _think_ I could teach even a Republican Party voter how
> to do it. ;->
>
> ITYM 'will probably never support without sysadmin manual work to
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:44:35AM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-11-29 00:22, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > My understanding is that Devuan will ask in the fresh installer whether
> > the user wants to merge or not, with the default being no merge. This
> > is fine with me.
> >
>
> I
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 08:37:12AM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, Linux O'Beardly wrote:
>
> >I don't want to be "that American," so I'm writing to ask: will this
> >conference will be done primarily in English or another language?
>
> it will be entirely in english. Also
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:45:25PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:25:20AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> >
> > > Le 28/11/2018 à 08:11, Rick Moen a écrit :
> > > >If I were relying on NFS during early boot, I'd file a bug against
> > >
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 03:36:12AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> (This is why I tend not to waste time hyperventilating about dumb distro
> policy decisions: Submit a bug. If it's rejected or never acted on,
> just make a local configuration that works around the stupid distro
> action, and move
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:11:25PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Instead, it
> seems /lib has become a holly directory where only the libc and the dynamic
> linker are allowed to live.
I do *not* mean this sarcastically; I am confused.
Is "holly" a new technical use of an existing English word?
Or
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 11:11:41PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
> > # ldd /sbin/mount.nfs | grep "/usr"
> > libgssapi_krb5.so.2 =>
> > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x7f82f53ac000)
> > libkrb5.so.3 =>
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 03:00:40AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
>
> > For what concerns, laptops, I think we are in the era of ssd
> > and, unfortunately, there is usually only one disk drive per laptop,
> > except of older ones where the cdrom drive can be
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 05:14:44PM -0800, spiralofhope wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:27:20 +0100
> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> At this point I'm trying to understand your perspective better, since
> maybe there are things to learn. I did notice I can articulate myself
> a bit better now.
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 09:27:20AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> I can be perfectly honest to some apparent other, without ever choosing
> to hurt him, her or cis. (There may be other words or ways to refer to
> non binary genders in English. Yes, even gender does not appear to be
>
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:21:01PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
>
> It would be possible to share the ports tree on a FreeBSD system, since it's
> mostly self-contained, so long as it's read-only (it has unshared data in
> /var including the package database, so can't be read-write). But this is
>
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:14:10PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are a million different ways to set up your computer. Preserving
> those choices is why we use Linux instead of windoz and mac. In a
> recent thread people have expressed love or disdain for various setups.
>
> Let
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:47:42PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> In my last install, I still had /tmp and /var on separate partitions,
> but I'm questionning the validity of such a setup.
It's useful to have /tmp on a separate partition in case some process
running amok fills it and
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:12:23AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 21/11/18 at 20:56, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 05:24:24PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >> On 21/11/18 at 16:59, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 07:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 05:24:24PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 21/11/18 at 16:59, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 07:32:22AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> >> Quoting Roger Leigh (rle...@codelibre.net):
> >>
> >>> I've been following the discussion with interest.
> >> For values of
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