[DNSOP] Microsoft updates RFC 2606

2009-03-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
I just discovered that Microsoft registered tempuri.com (and .org) and apparently promotes them for use in documentation and examples, ignoring RFC 2606. http://www.google.com/search?q="tempuri"+site%3Amicrosoft.com ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:55:39AM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote a message of 22 lines which said: > There's a strong technical reason to ban any numeric TLD name that > could be interpreted as part of a dotted-quad, They cannot be "interpreted as part of a dotted-quad" if everyone follows RF

Re: [DNSOP] Microsoft updates RFC 2606

2009-03-06 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
I just discovered that Microsoft registered tempuri.com (and .org) and apparently promotes them for use in documentation and examples, ignoring RFC 2606. Actually, if you read the text at that link, it is for using in experimental XML namespaces. jaap

[DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-01.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : DNSSEC Operational Practices, Version 2 Author(s) : O. Kolkman, M. Gieben File

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20090306095645.ga19...@nic.fr>, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:55:39AM -0500, > Andrew Sullivan wrote > a message of 22 lines which said: > > > There's a strong technical reason to ban any numeric TLD name that > > could be interpreted as part of a dotted

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 10:56:45AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > They cannot be "interpreted as part of a dotted-quad" if everyone > follows RFC 1123 section 2.1 "The host SHOULD check the string > syntactically for a dotted-decimal number before looking it up in the > Domain Name System". F

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Edward Lewis
At 14:08 -0500 3/6/09, someone wrote: ...I think appealing to the RFC 1123 rules for this case is going to be tricky. Remember that RFC 1123 was written in a historical epoch much different than today. No IDNs. No URLs. No thought of domain names in newspapers. The BiDi issue will prett

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:38:37PM -0500, Edward Lewis wrote: > Remember that RFC 1123 was written in a historical epoch much different > than today. No IDNs. No URLs. No thought of domain names in > newspapers. But depending on whether you think the text I quoted is normative, 1123 may actu

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Edward Lewis
At 15:13 -0500 3/6/09, Andrew Sullivan wrote: But depending on whether you think the text I quoted is normative, 1123 may actually forbid those IDNs at the top level. Which would be a bad thing, I think. I'm not sure what...a bad thing would be forbidding IDNs or is a bad thing removing the

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 03:54:58PM -0500, Edward Lewis wrote: > knowledge of IDNs and the BiDi issue. But when I talked with some folks > around the ICANN circus, there was conventional wisdom that there would > be no admission of a delegation beginning or ending with a digit to the > root zon

[DNSOP] numeric labels

2009-03-06 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
I haven't read the draft yet, but the discussion whether numeric labels are allowed seems to get slightly out of hand. Anybody can use them and apparently people are. That is easily proved but running something like: for i in `seq 1 1 1000`; do echo $i; dig +short $i.com; done and replac

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <2009030621.gp12...@shinkuro.com>, Andrew Sullivan writes: > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 03:54:58PM -0500, Edward Lewis wrote: > > > knowledge of IDNs and the BiDi issue. But when I talked with some folks > > around the ICANN circus, there was conventional wisdom that there would >

[DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-00.txt

2009-03-06 Thread SM
The topic discussed in draft-liman-tld-names-00 has two angles, the application angle and the DNS angle. The "requirements" can be different depending on which angle we are looking at. From Section 11 of RFC 2181: "The DNS itself places only one restriction on the particular labels that