Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Mohacsi Janos
Dear All, Sorry for crossposting. This proposal is the opposite with the principle how the DNS is developed a while ago. The DNS is a highly distributed, hierarchical, autonomous, reliable database with very useful extensions. This modification is proposing lying about the existence of the

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Nicholas Weaver
On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Mohacsi Janos wrote: Dear All, Sorry for crossposting. This proposal is the opposite with the principle how the DNS is developed a while ago. The DNS is a highly distributed, hierarchical, autonomous, reliable database with very useful extensions. This

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 09:04:39AM -0700, Nicholas Weaver wrote: His linux host would do an A and an query and, until the query timed out, delay creating connections eg, through SSH, web browsing, etc. An amazingly painful experience for him until he diagnosed it. But the answer to

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Nicholas Weaver
On Mar 30, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: I am not among those who think that the number of clients involved with this is insignificant. I know that something people sometimes hear, but the abolute number of people involved does make this a real problem. I just don't think that

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 01:46:07PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: Why is there a need to wean people off IPv4? Because we're about to run out of v4 addresses, according to the people in charge of giving them out. A -- Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Edward Lewis
At 13:58 -0400 3/30/10, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Because we're about to run out of v4 addresses, according to the people in charge of giving them out. I've heard that before. The run out does not mean an end to the IPv4 network. There will still be 4 billion IPv4 network addresses (yes, a

[DNSOP] DNS answers based on the transport protocol

2010-03-30 Thread Jim Reid
On 30 Mar 2010, at 19:25, Andrew Sullivan wrote: it seems like the wrong time to break a perfectly good feature (DNS answers on v4 for a possible v6 connection). +1 It is a very, very bad idea to couple the network protocol to the answers given by a DNS server. The end client may well

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread Edward Lewis
At 11:25 -0700 3/30/10, Ted Lemon wrote: You want to use IPv6 because: - it has significant new features that will make things like VoIP work better for you Fine, that's a reason for v6 to come along. But why should I prefer to run SSH over v6 rather than v4? - if you can't use IPv6,

Re: [DNSOP] FYI: DNSOPS presentation

2010-03-30 Thread John Schnizlein
Just a point of clarification before the list moderator shuts down this off-topic thread.. Ed's unstated assumption is that the condition being considered is communication between two hosts that are both dual-stack. It is not that he fails to understand that hosts that are now IPv4-only