Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
On 7/7/15 4:48 PM, Steve Crocker wrote: It seems to me that UM did appear in the root and then was taken out of service. I doubt we’d want to see it assigned to another country or territory in the near future. I’d put it in subset 8 unless it were brought back to life in the service of the s

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread hellekin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/07/2015 08:00 PM, Alain Durand wrote: >> >> o Does the IETF have a process for moving a name from subset 2 to >> subset 4? > > what is needed is a process that is less ambiguous and simpler to > evaluate than RFC6761 to reserve strings in sub

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Crocker
Thanks. Minor comments in line below. Steve On Jul 7, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: > Not taking a stand on this, but some more remarks on these thoughts. > > Edward Lewis writes: > >> >> On 7/5/15, 7:26, "DNSOP on behalf of Steve Crocker" >> wrote: >> >>> 3. (ICANN) Two letter

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Crocker
On Jul 6, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: > On 7/5/15, 7:26, "DNSOP on behalf of Steve Crocker" > wrote: > >> 3. (ICANN) Two letter Latin characters that have not yet been assigned by >> the ISO 3166 maintenance agency but might be in the future. Names in >> this subset may move to subs

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Alain Durand
Putting the focus on this part of Steve¹s original email for now: On 7/5/15, 7:26 AM, "DNSOP on behalf of Steve Crocker" wrote: > >o ICANN speaks indistinctly about subset 5. > >o Does the IETF have a process for moving a name from subset 2 to subset >4? Ideally, I would argue we may not need s

[DNSOP] Terry Manderson's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-07-07 Thread Terry Manderson
Terry Manderson has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) P

Re: [DNSOP] Top level names -- precision re categories and where are are the uncertainties?

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Crocker
Jaap, This was a mistake on my part. I was working at my laptop and didn’t have space to see everything at once. As a separate matter I didn’t see a copy of my submission, and I incorrectly assumed it hadn’t gotten through, perhaps because attachments weren’t allowed. I was wrong, but it cau

Re: [DNSOP] Simplified Updates of DNS Security Trust Anchors, for rolling the root key

2015-07-07 Thread Bob Harold
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:03 PM, manning wrote: > Why, yes, I still do. (and it can be found in the IEtF archives) > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsext-trustupdate-threshold-01 > > As to why, perhaps I am missing the obvious, but if SUDSTA proceeds, does > it matter if the origin IP

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01.txt

2015-07-07 Thread Bob Harold
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:20 AM, wrote: > Akira Kato and I submitted draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01. > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse/ > > > ... > -- > Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS > > I am concerned that the "AN" flag allows for easy zone wal

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption for draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns

2015-07-07 Thread Tim Wicinski
This draft was updated to address all the issues from the last meeting, and it's been ready for adoption This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-howard-isp-ip6rdns/ https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-howard-

[DNSOP] .KEY - a new example of a non-DNS use

2015-07-07 Thread Dan York
As we've been having this thread around TLDs, I noticed this item in Hacker News this morning of a new overlay network that is designed to use hashes of public keys for addressing: https://github.com/zrm/snow https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9843373 http://trustiosity.com/snow/how-it-works.h

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-02.txt

2015-07-07 Thread Tony Finch
John Dickinson wrote: > > We have just submitted a -02 update to the 5966bis draft. I have read through this draft. It looks in good shape to me. A general comment: can you please grep for lower-case RFC 2119 keywords and either upper-case them or replace them with different phrasing, so there i

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Sorry for the empty previous post. My recollection is somewhat different from the AC "requesting" the revocation. But then the then AC reads this list and can relate himself if he wishes to do so. And I was quite upset at the time because I wanted dibs on IMODI.UM (just for the fun of it, not fo

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
-07-07 11:27, Bill Woodcock wrote:> > As I'm sure our resident bad-idea-fairy can relate in greater detail, .UM was a delegated ccTLD with SLD subdelegations and at least one user, before the administrative contact requested that the TLD delegation be rescinded or deactivated or whatever you want t

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Bill Woodcock
As I'm sure our resident bad-idea-fairy can relate in greater detail, .UM was a delegated ccTLD with SLD subdelegations and at least one user, before the administrative contact requested that the TLD delegation be rescinded or deactivated or whatever you want to call it. Just a little more co

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-07 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Not taking a stand on this, but some more remarks on these thoughts. Edward Lewis writes: > > On 7/5/15, 7:26, "DNSOP on behalf of Steve Crocker" > wrote: > > >3. (ICANN) Two letter Latin characters that have not yet been assigned by > >the ISO 3166 maintenance agency but might be in th

[DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01.txt

2015-07-07 Thread fujiwara
Akira Kato and I submitted draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse/ * Added reference to DLV {{RFC5074}} and imported some sentences. * Added Aggressive Negative Caching Flag idea. * Added detailed algorithms in Append

Re: [DNSOP] Top level names -- precision re categories and where are are the uncertainties?

2015-07-07 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Steve Crocker writes: > Folks, > > I`ve been watching the dialog on this list regarding to level names. > Attached is my attempt to clarify the state of affairs and identify the > loose ends. Both PDF and pptx versions attached, the latter in case > someone is moved to edit the slides dir