Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:57:06AM -0700, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote a message of 98 lines which said: The definition in the draft includes ideas from RFC 5625, which seems to be the much more common definition of forwarder used today. However, the WG is free to define this

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-22 Thread Hugo Connery
On 04/22/2015 02:33 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: [snip]. Please propose specific wording for the merge so the WG can see if they like it better. Policy-implementing resolver -- A resolver that changes some answers it returns based on policy criteria, such as to prevent access to malware

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-22 Thread Robert Edmonds
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:57:06AM -0700, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote a message of 98 lines which said: Passive DNS -- A mechanism to collect large amounts of DNS data by storing queries and responses from recursive servers. Most passive

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-21 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote: Yes. There are differences between the explicit definition for DNS forwarder in RFC 2308 and the strongly implied definition in RFC 5625. The difference here is that RFC 2308 uses forwarder to mean the target of forwarded queries, whereas RFC 5625 is

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-21 Thread Ray Bellis
On 20 Apr 2015, at 17:57, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote: Yes. There are differences between the explicit definition for DNS forwarder in RFC 2308 and the strongly implied definition in RFC 5625. The WG needs to decide which definition it prefers, and an explanation of why

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-20 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 06:48:29AM -0400, Tim WIcinski tjw.i...@gmail.com wrote a message of 30 lines which said: Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. Remember: This draft is not attempting to redefine any definitions, but to collect and formalize the definitions which do

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:43 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: IMHO, the text can NOT be published with its definition of Forwarder. The definition of Forwarder is still both confused and self-contradictory. Yes. There are differences between the explicit definition for DNS

[DNSOP] Adoption and Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology/

2015-04-17 Thread Tim WIcinski
Greetings, While we've never had a formal call for adoption, this draft has had a lot of comments about the contents, but never about the need for this document. The need has been clear. The chairs made the move of adopting the document directly, and we're now opening a Working Group Last