Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another cyclone coming

2011-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
+1 Take care! Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 0:59:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another cyclone coming Hi, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 04:50, Barbara Duprey wrote: > We'll c

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: translation spaces

2011-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Ooops! I agree with David then! lol Regards from Tom :) From: Rogerio Luz Coelho To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 3:26:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: translation spaces 2011/1/30 Tom Davies > Hi :) > > I think m

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Comments in documents

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) My 2 cents would be that comments inside documents are more immediately accessible to workers, and are more "portable" to wherever the document goes. But Alfresco's discussion capability is more appropriate if it's not just a conclusive comment but is likely to turn into a conversation. W

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fixing screwy chapter

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 1/30/2011 9:05 PM, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:54:06 -0600 Barbara Duprey wrote: OK, my version is there now -- but it's only available through version history, the original version is still the one that appears directly in the folder. None of the actions seem to fit,

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: translation spaces

2011-01-30 Thread Rogerio Luz Coelho
2011/1/30 Tom Davies > Hi :) > > I think making the language codes "title case" (eg En-Gb) would be a bit > weird > as the are almost always written lower-case. People would automatically > type > the codes in lower-case and then not arrive at the correct page. > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Comments in documents

2011-01-30 Thread Rogerio Luz Coelho
2011/1/30 Barbara Duprey > As I've worked on chapters, I've used a number of comments. The first is > essentially my own checklist of things to do/done, which is also info for > the reviewer to see if the right bases have been covered, but there are > others relating to the need to replace figure

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fixing screwy chapter

2011-01-30 Thread Jeremy Cartwright
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:54:06 -0600 Barbara Duprey wrote: > OK, my version is there now -- but it's only available through > version history, the original version is still the one that appears > directly in the folder. None of the actions seem to fit, since it > isn't ready to be promoted. Will my

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fixing screwy chapter

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 1/30/2011 4:50 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: On 1/30/2011 3:36 PM, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:22:05 -0600 Barbara Duprey wrote: Then, from the (Working Copy) in Review, Upload, then Check In, to get the edited I believe that would be check in, then use the find document d

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco site not loading

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 09:40, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > I can't get through to the alfresco site, and > downforeveryoneorjustme.com thinks http://documentation.traduction.biz/ > is in fact down for everyone. It's back online again. Sorry about that. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe

[libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco site not loading

2011-01-30 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I can't get through to the alfresco site, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com thinks http://documentation.traduction.biz/ is in fact down for everyone. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentatio

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] synchronization of ODFAuthors and alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread Jeremy Cartwright
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:26:35 +0100 Karl-Heinz Gödderz wrote: > alfresco for the english part and for french, and other languages on > ODFAuthors. To be clear, there are spaces set up in Alfresco for many (20+) languages, and more can be set up as needed. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another cyclone coming

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 04:50, Barbara Duprey wrote: > We'll cross our fingers for you and everybody there. Good luck! +1 David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I was just trying to be amusing but at least i made myself chuckle so it 'kinda' worked. From the marketing lists i get the impression that we are not aiming at corporate/business customers except those that are already using OpenOffice although that might be different in countries t

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: translation spaces

2011-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think making the language codes "title case" (eg En-Gb) would be a bit weird as the are almost always written lower-case. People would automatically type the codes in lower-case and then not arrive at the correct page. Regards from Tom :) From: D

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Apple are a form of Bsd, which is unix-based, and so a lot of the UI is very similar to stuff we have in gnu&linux and often originated in gnu&linux. So it might be a bit more difficult to make a fuss. Their licensing agreements are a bit less draconian too. Also Apple are keen for peo

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fixing screwy chapter

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 1/30/2011 3:36 PM, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:22:05 -0600 Barbara Duprey wrote: Then, from the (Working Copy) in Review, Upload, then Check In, to get the edited I believe that would be check in, then use the find document dialog in that process to upload the new versi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fixing screwy chapter

2011-01-30 Thread Jeremy Cartwright
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:22:05 -0600 Barbara Duprey wrote: > Then, from the (Working Copy) in Review, Upload, then Check In, to > get the edited I believe that would be check in, then use the find document dialog in that process to upload the new version. Re: version numbers, those are controlle

[libreoffice-documentation] Comments in documents

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
As I've worked on chapters, I've used a number of comments. The first is essentially my own checklist of things to do/done, which is also info for the reviewer to see if the right bases have been covered, but there are others relating to the need to replace figures, or questioning the best way t

[libreoffice-documentation] Fixing screwy chapter

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
In my earlier attempts to get Chapter 14 into Drafts, I apparently ended up with the original rather than my changed version there. As I read BootCamp, I should go to the Review folder, bring up Details for that chapter, and use Check Out (I have the edited copy on my own computer and don't want

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another cyclone coming

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 1/30/2011 5:40 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Today's cyclone (Anthony) is just far enough south to have missed bringing us wind and rain, but the next one is likely to be a different story. TC Yasi is due here around Thursday, and it's BIG. --Jean We'll cross our fingers for you and everybod

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi David, Clayton, *, I wonder if this thread is on the right list. Maybe you should discuss this on the website list, because it is related to the website and not everyone, who is working on the website is reading this list. Just my 2 €-Cent Regards, Andreas Am Sonntag, 30. Januar 2011, 20

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
Alright, I'll work on that. Actually, I won't be doing anything else tonight, it's late here, I live in Italy. So... I'll be pulling all of the current writing into LibreOffice (ironic, no?) to compile a general format for each page, with pieces which will be uniform across all pages, and from ther

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) Don't be shy to pad out that content in the Why? pages, if you have inspiration. It was too telegraphic for my taste. Search engine spiders eat text. You don't have to be too verbose, but... HTH. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreof

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
THAT I can do. Typin' up sum editz. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:13 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Clayton, :-) > > Jaxson commented: > > "One thing that I was going to mention (my main reason for joining > this list actually) is the inconsistency between the application > descriptions on the Why for.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) Jaxson commented: "One thing that I was going to mention (my main reason for joining this list actually) is the inconsistency between the application descriptions on the Why for...? pages. Take Impress - described as a "A presentation", "Presentation" and "Presentation manager" o

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
How about this format: (Note that there will be consistences across the pages, with more specific answers towards the bottom, ranked by importance. I will probably be keeping the double bullet point feature for the explanation of the software. Or perhaps only mention the specific pieces that are re

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) > Also, regarding the typo, for some reason I couldn't find a spell checker > just in case. Have I overlooked something? Look for the ABC button in the toolbar. > Awesome. Yes, I got all of the messages, however I did the fixes first. Then > for some reason went on and started co

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
Awesome. Yes, I got all of the messages, however I did the fixes first. Then for some reason went on and started correcting the layout. Then bastardized it, but forgot to make it uniform (I would be looking at all of those pages, choosing the best layout, and applying it to all of them from there.)

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jaxson, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 02:31, Jaxson Lee wrote: > I'd love to get involved with the whole documentation process - I can't do > anything other than the most basic coding, I can appreciate good design but > can't design very well myself, but I do have good technical writing > abilit

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 02:30, Clayton Walker wrote: > Also, did anybody get my suggested publishing? And is there any sort > of collaboration settings as well? I looked at your changes. They look fine. Feel free to develop the content further? Expand a bit? I did see a typo, but

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Jaxson Lee
I'd love to get involved with the whole documentation process - I can't do anything other than the most basic coding, I can appreciate good design but can't design very well myself, but I do have good technical writing abilities. By work on, do you mean proof-read etc.? I'm not sure on how to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
Because they don't issue out their own productivity software? Or is it because they aren't on such a sue spree? Doesn't matter either way, I get your drift. Also, did anybody get my suggested publishing? And is there any sort of collaboration settings as well? On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Davi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] synchronization of ODFAuthors and alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I see it as purely a manual effort, ATM. I would not envision any attempt at an automated process until a genuine need actually arises in the future. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 01:56, Clayton Walker wrote: > What's the problem with Windows? Wouldn't Mac be the same then? No, various project members asked me to not do Windows screenshots because of us potentially being sued on a copyright issue. The only exceptions ATM are the Windows ins

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
What's the problem with Windows? Wouldn't Mac be the same then? On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:54 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Clayton, :-) > > Well, with the brown window frames, it actually looks not dissimilar > to Ubuntu, so that would be fine. But probably you can configure a Mac > to meet that s

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) Well, with the brown window frames, it actually looks not dissimilar to Ubuntu, so that would be fine. But probably you can configure a Mac to meet that same "constraint", too. I was just thinking about avoiding breaking visually too much with the existing screenshots, but it's not

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
I'm... not... running it right now, maybe that's a question for the community, but here's a few screenies. http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/linux-mint-499x383.jpg http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/gloria/12.png On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:38 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: translation spaces

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jeremy, :-) Yes, thank you indeed for this... One little question: would it be a problem to name all directories starting with a capital letter? It doesn't really matter, it's purely a "it gets in my face" thing, and if you have reasons for not doing so or not wanting to change things now, that

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 00:24, Clayton Walker wrote: > True, but perhaps screenshots from Linux Mint would be better? After all, LM > is green, and that seems to be the current theme. Sure, that's fine... Could you please maybe mail me one just to see what it looks like? So I gu

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: translation spaces

2011-01-30 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 30/01/11 06:49, Jeremy Cartwright a écrit : Hi Jeremy, > > There are now spaces in Alfresco for the list of languages as found > here: http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/, plus Italian, > Swedish & Hindi. > Great stuff, tahnks. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
Already working on it, I also noticed that. I also noticed that the writer loved to mention the fact that it _CAN_ create professional _LOOKING_ documents, as if it needed to be mentioned that software capable of writing professional letters was hard to come by. I also agree with you on the referen

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Jaxson Lee
One thing that I was going to mention (my main reason for joining this list actually) is the inconsistency between the application descriptions on the Why for...? pages. Take Impress - described as a "A presentation", "Presentation" and "Presentation manager" on different pages. If we're descr

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
True, but perhaps screenshots from Linux Mint would be better? After all, LM is green, and that seems to be the current theme. And I'll be fixing the grammatical errors, and then we can discuss layout later, I like that idea. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:16 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Clayton, :-)

[libreoffice-documentation] synchronization of ODFAuthors and alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread Karl-Heinz Gödderz
Hi, when I read earlier mails correct, it seems to me, that we will get two tools for working on documentations. alfresco for the english part and for french, and other languages on ODFAuthors. In my eyes we now need to synchronize the content of this two tools. to lighten translations. how ca

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) Please do go ahead and write the kind of content you'd like to see. Let your imagination go, and let your ideas flow. Maybe focus on text first off, and then we can talk about graphics and screenshots after? (Mac is OK-ish, Ubuntu fits perfectly with current material, and Windows

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 23:36, Clayton Walker wrote: > David, do you think I should sign up to the website mailing list? Yes, it would be a great idea. Most of the discussions about the website take place on the website list, with some overflow onto the design list (notably as re

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
Another point is that it sounds like we are trying our hardest to convince these people that we are up to standards, instead of boasting features that make LO different and unique. We boast that we are the same. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Clayton Walker wrote: > Alright, cool. > > Onto some

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
Alright, cool. Onto some critics, not so much ideas. First off, my eyes just glazed over. I can't read walls of text. Inset images are always nice, as long as they aren't too obtrusive and obscure. I can provide screen shots from a Mac, as I'm using one now. Speaking of which, another huge point w

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Clayton, :-) Initially, I'd suggest that you read the Features section of the site, and the sub-pages about the individual LibreOffice applications. My 2 cents would be to adopt a similar style layout-wise, and a similar writing style, too. That way, all content would be consistent, with no "m

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
David, do you think I should sign up to the website mailing list? Also, if we need any format pages, we could always look to other office software web-pages, and look at what they find most important to display. But if there's any style I particularly love, it's the sytle Apple uses. http://www.a

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey
On 1/29/2011 10:26 PM, Hal Parker wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: What I've found is that the only step that takes significant amounts of time is checking the figures -- I get through all the other stuff in less than half an hour, and the majority of that is cha

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)

2011-01-30 Thread Clayton Walker
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to point fingers and insult people, but I'm just trying to point out where it's wrong. (I don't even know who wrote them in the first place, nor do I care.) I'm only interested in fixing them. Regarding what Mr. Davies was addressing, I don't aim to make the pages boring,

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
+1 here too From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 14:02:17 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco Le 30/01/2011

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 30/01/2011 14:10, Rogerio Luz Coelho a écrit : My 2cents as a pt-br translator is that we let the subdivisions as they are, so if we get a team that posts as PT and ANOTHER as PT-BR we let them both exist in the main tree something like: /pt /pt-br My opinion as well. -- Jean-Francois

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread Rogerio Luz Coelho
My 2cents as a pt-br translator is that we let the subdivisions as they are, so if we get a team that posts as PT and ANOTHER as PT-BR we let them both exist in the main tree something like: /pt /pt-br ? Rogerio 2011/1/30 Tom Davies > Looks great :) All languages clearly being equal. But

[libreoffice-documentation] Another cyclone coming

2011-01-30 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Today's cyclone (Anthony) is just far enough south to have missed bringing us wind and rain, but the next one is likely to be a different story. TC Yasi is due here around Thursday, and it's BIG. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http

[libreoffice-documentation] Comment feature on ODFAuthors

2011-01-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, I'll give a second short update for those who are working or interested in working on ODFAuthors. There is a comment feature available inside ODFAuthors (Plone 4), that could be activated for every folder / document. You have to tick the checkbox "Allow comments" on the register "Set

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] question from alfresco

2011-01-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/01/2011 Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 10:31 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > I will soon put a notice on the OOoAuthors > > website itself, to tell people about the new site. ... > > I have now put a notice on the first page of the OOoAuthors website and > on the first

[libreoffice-documentation] Working copy support for ODT on ODFAuthors

2011-01-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, I'll give an short update for those who are working or interested in working on ODFAuthors. I activated the working copy support on ODFAuthors for binary files like ODT. It is posible now to do something like a checkout for a ODT-Document. You can find this feature inside the actions