[Dorset] xloadimage

2010-10-10 Thread Andrew R Paterson
Hi Ralph, thanks for that, convert/composite works fine - but gee! it's noticeably slow! Despite ImageMagick being around for many years, I never thought of it being much more than display(1) :) I'll have a look at netpbm/pnmcomp. -- Andy Paterson -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandfo

Re: [Dorset] xloadimage - transparent images

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Andy, > using imagemagick has solved my background problem thanks I had a quick look at xloadimage's source; I don't think it handles transparent pixels at all. There's also netpbm to do the image composition, but I think it would take more steps. The transparency mask would be extracted t

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Simon, > Sometimes I could weep. > On the fora, some guy asks why his external screen doesn't work with > Ubuntu, but works straight away with Windows 7. > The Ubuntu troll replies"It does work with Ubuntu" > Bloke-no, it doesn't. > Ubuntu Troll -"It's not Ubuntu's fault, it's the drivers." >

Re: [Dorset] xloadimage - transparent images

2010-10-10 Thread jr
hi Andrew, > using imagemagick has solved my background problem thanks, my bash function is > now (roughly) nothing like a bit of magic. :-) been thinking that this quite a useful bit of code. how about putting it, documented, onto the Wiki? -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit f

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 21:48 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Also - the xorg.conf hack works again and I have an external monitor > port. Once again: Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" Option "ActiveDevice" "LCD, CRT" Option "SWCursor" "on" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifie

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Terry - my Netbook version specified a network connection in the install dialogue. It automatically hacked the B43 and I had nothing to do once I pulled the Ethernet out. Also - the xorg.conf hack works again and I have an external monitor port. The problem with the upgrade install seems to have be

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:21:12 +0100, s...@funkygibbins.me.uk said: > - run the command 'dpkg –get-selections > ./selectionfile' on the > machine to be cloned Or, better still, use the aptitude-create-state-bundle command, which also preserves the automatic/manual status of each installed package.

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Terry Coles wrote: > However, my son's laptop is playing up... Stay tuned. Two out of two now. We think his problem was a ropey CD drive. It installed and ran second time with no problem. We had to connect him to the router with string because his Wi-Fi chipset is a Br

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Sometimes I could weep. On the fora, some guy asks why his external screen doesn't work with Ubuntu, but works straight away with Windows 7. The Ubuntu troll replies"It does work with Ubuntu" Bloke-no, it doesn't. Ubuntu Troll -"It's not Ubuntu's fault, it's the drivers." Bloke- why then does it wo

Re: [Dorset] xloadimage - transparent images

2010-10-10 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Saturday 09 October 2010, jr wrote: > hi Andrew, > > > TIA for any assistance/suggestions > > don't have 'xloadimage' on my machine, however, if you have the > ImageMagick(1) software installed, 'composite' will combine images. Hi jr et al using imagemagick has solved my background problem th

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Terry Coles wrote: > I didn't and (so far) I seem to have a pretty good installation. > > I did a clean install of Kubuntu, keeping my /home partition. I've still > got to reinstall all the packages that I need that don't come with the > live disc, so something might yet br

[Dorset] Success!

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Luke, welcome to this fully operational death star. Sorry, netbook. So far, sound works PERFECTLY. However, opencv has changed to 2.1 and all my vision demos must be rebuilt. Simono -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... h

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Rob, > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:45:56 +0100, Terry Coles > wrote: > > I did try bittorrent, but that only gave me about 1 kb/s. > > I find torrents can take a few minutes to get up to full speed. This > is of course presuming everyone in the seed pool is uploading at a > decent rate. That's

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Sean, > On the point of effectively cloning an Ubuntu or Debian instance in > terms of the installed packages after a clean install, I have used > this method in the past: > > - run the command 'dpkg –get-selections > ./selectionfile' on the > machine to be cloned > - when the base install

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Simon, > I've calmed down enough now, Ralph. :-) > Please pass this on to the appropriate levels. > 1)HP 2133 needs additions to the xorg.conf file with 10.04 to make the > external monitor port work. > 2)These mods prevent X from loading with 10.10. > 3)Iff you take the mods out, 10.10 shou

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:45:56 +0100, Terry Coles wrote: I did try bittorrent, but that only gave me about 1 kb/s. I find torrents can take a few minutes to get up to full speed. This is of course presuming everyone in the seed pool is uploading at a decent rate. Also note that until ther

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:05:33 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: Fuck-ups like this aren't just embarrassing; they are harmful to Linux. Sadly we still haven't ruled out PEBKAC -- Robert Bronsdon -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC,

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 10/10/10 17:09, Terry Coles wrote: > On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Ralph Corderoy wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >>> Wunderbar! I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESKTOP WHATSOEVER. 10.10 is a console! >> ...angels fear to tread. >> >> Why not wait a week? > I didn't and (so far) I seem to have a pretty good installation.

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Simon, > > > Wunderbar! I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESKTOP WHATSOEVER. 10.10 is a console! > > ...angels fear to tread. > > Why not wait a week? I didn't and (so far) I seem to have a pretty good installation. I did a clean install of Kubuntu, keepin

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
I've calmed down enough now, Ralph. Please pass this on to the appropriate levels. 1)HP 2133 needs additions to the xorg.conf file with 10.04 to make the external monitor port work. 2)These mods prevent X from loading with 10.10. 3)Iff you take the mods out, 10.10 should be fine. Nuff said. Obviou

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, Dan wrote: > It's out! An amusing release announce email from Robbie Williams- on. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2010-October/000139.html Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ..

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Simon, > Wunderbar! I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESKTOP WHATSOEVER. 10.10 is a console! ...angels fear to tread. Why not wait a week? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
The latest - my modified xorg.conf file seemed to be the cause of the problem. >From the command line I removed it and I now have the desktop, but get this - no keyboard or mouse. Trying USBs. Simono On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 15:33 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > If NBR is NBG, I'll probably dig out my

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
If NBR is NBG, I'll probably dig out my Fedora 13 disk and go with that. Bloody shambles. Simono On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 15:16 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > I am now(at the 3rd attempt because the servers aren't up to it), slowly > downloading Netbook edition for a clean install. > Maybe it will wo

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
I am now(at the 3rd attempt because the servers aren't up to it), slowly downloading Netbook edition for a clean install. Maybe it will work. Maybe it won't. This is going to be an all-nighter, and I may have to revert. Fortunately I backed up the good stuff already. Simono On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 14

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Fuck-ups like this aren't just embarrassing; they are harmful to Linux. On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 14:59 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Wunderbar! I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESKTOP WHATSOEVER. 10.10 is a console! > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:49 +, Bryn Jones wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Si

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Wunderbar! I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESKTOP WHATSOEVER. 10.10 is a console! On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:49 +, Bryn Jones wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Simon O'Riordan > wrote: > > My wireless was KO'd at about 45% download. > > After switching to wire, and recommencing about 5 times as i

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Bryn Jones
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > My wireless was KO'd at about 45% download. > After switching to wire, and recommencing about 5 times as it kept > aborting, I have reached the end of download and am now installing. > Fingers crossed! > Simono > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:1

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
My wireless was KO'd at about 45% download. After switching to wire, and recommencing about 5 times as it kept aborting, I have reached the end of download and am now installing. Fingers crossed! Simono On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:12 +0100, Dan Dart wrote: > Don't forget the ten seconds! > > -- > Nex

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Bryn Jones
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Terry Coles wrote: > On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: >> My upgrade just aborted. > > Downloading has stopped too.  I've had no data since around midday. > > I did try bittorrent, but that only gave me about 1 kb/s. > > -- >                Terry Coles

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Dan Dart
Don't forget the ten seconds! -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Simon, > Must have come out at 11? Is that 10 GMT? I expect it came out at ten minutes past ten GMT/UTC. So yes, a bit gone 11 here; it's still summertime. $ TZ=Europe/London date -d '2010-10-10 10:10 UTC' 2010-10-10 11:10:00 +0100 Sun $ Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Cro

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > My upgrade just aborted. Downloading has stopped too. I've had no data since around midday. I did try bittorrent, but that only gave me about 1 kb/s. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next mee

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:54:12 +0100, Terry Coles > wrote: > > BTW, BT give me around 6 MB/s on my connection. > > Are you meaning 6Mb/s (would often display as ~600KB/s). 6MB/s would be > marketed as 60Mb/s. > > At 6MB/s you should have a full DVD .

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:54:12 +0100, Terry Coles wrote: Unfortunately, I think BT throttle torrents. In theory, a typical ISO shouldn't take more than a few hours, but I've rarely managed better than 8-10 hours with a torrent. On several occasions, I've had to run the torrent for several

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:37:50 +0100, Simon O'Riordan > > wrote: > > Anyway, progress is smooth so far, except that so many files from so > > many servers inevitably means variable download speed. > > Probably done by 1330. > > That would be the reas

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
My upgrade just aborted. Simono On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 11:42 +0100, Dan Dart wrote: > The perfect 10 is out! Just to break your modes of speech. > > -- > Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > How

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:37:50 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: Anyway, progress is smooth so far, except that so many files from so many servers inevitably means variable download speed. Probably done by 1330. That would be the reason for distributing via. .torrent a much better protocol for

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Dan Dart
The perfect 10 is out! Just to break your modes of speech. -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Must have come out at 11? Is that 10 GMT? Anyway, progress is smooth so far, except that so many files from so many servers inevitably means variable download speed. Probably done by 1330. Gradely, lads! Simono On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 11:30 +0100, Terry Coles wrote: > On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Terry Col

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Terry Coles wrote: > On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Dan Dart wrote: > > It's out! > > The 32 bit version is. No 64 bit yet ;-( 64 bit is up now. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, T

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Dan Dart wrote: > It's out! The 32 bit version is. No 64 bit yet ;-( -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sunday 10 October 2010 09:37:36 Natalie Hooper wrote: > I got a Mint live CD from one of those Linux mags a couple of months ago so > I might give it a try. In fact, I've been collecting live CDs/DVDs for a > couple of months so I've got about 5 or 6 of them to try out but I can't > try them out

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Dan Dart
It's out! -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Oct 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:36:53 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > Where is 10.10? What the heck are they playing at? > > Getting the release right - not just rushing it out? I hope so. I'm always a bit wary about new releases anyway, but Kubuntu 10.04

Re: [Dorset] [OT] HP Printer memory

2010-10-10 Thread jr
hi Tim, On 10 October 2010 09:43, Peter Merchant wrote: > This conversation is six months too late. I had lots of the 72 pin > memory in 16 and 32 MB, and I threw it all out about 6 months ago in my > spring clearout. I still have a couple of dozen assorted old DIMMs knocking around. if you're

Re: [Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:36:53 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: Where is 10.10? What the heck are they playing at? Getting the release right - not just rushing it out? -- Robert Bronsdon -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedI

[Dorset] WTH?

2010-10-10 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Where is 10.10? What the heck are they playing at? Simono -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Peter Merchant
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:37 +0100, Natalie Hooper wrote: > I got a Mint live CD from one of those Linux mags a couple of months ago so > I might give it a try. In fact, I've been collecting live CDs/DVDs for a > couple of months so I've got about 5 or 6 of them to try out but I can't try > them out

Re: [Dorset] [OT] HP Printer memory

2010-10-10 Thread Peter Merchant
On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 16:49 +0100, jr wrote: > hi Tim, > > > It is a P2015, looking at the links on the bottom of the wiki they seem > > mainly > > older HP lasers > > google reveals: > http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=120&prodSeriesId=1845551&pr

Re: [Dorset] Which distro would you install?

2010-10-10 Thread Natalie Hooper
I got a Mint live CD from one of those Linux mags a couple of months ago so I might give it a try. In fact, I've been collecting live CDs/DVDs for a couple of months so I've got about 5 or 6 of them to try out but I can't try them out on my current old desktop because the CD and DVD drives are both