[Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Terry Coles
Hi, My upgrades to Kubuntu 9.10 didn't *all* go smoothly; my wife's Mesh (64 bit Dual-core Athlon) locked up halfway through installation, with the inevitable result of an unusable machine. I still don't know what went wrong, but I'm always ready to do a clean install, so I grabbed the 64 bit

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Simon O'Riordan
n any Starbucks file. Whether this is copyright protection or something more sinister is open to question. - Original Message - From: "Terry Coles" To: "Dorset Linux User Group" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke
Simon O'Riordan wrote: > If anybody wants to get really angry, I've got some news about Starbucks; if > you do an image search for Starbucks, you find that any conversion to bitmap > is protected from binary read at the stream buffer level. It is only > Starbucks images, and it is obvious that t

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Simon O'Riordan
r 01, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2 > Simon O'Riordan wrote: >> If anybody wants to get really angry, I've got some news about Starbucks; >> if >> you do an image search for Starbucks, you find that any conversion to >> bit

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Simon O'Riordan
ot; To: "Dorset Linux User Group" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2 >I have a utility that strips data bytes out of a bitmap. It doesn't have a > problem with any bitmap except those found by a Google image sear

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Simon O'Riordan
Maybe I've discovered a malicious .NET Easter Egg! - Original Message - From: "Simon O'Riordan" To: "Dorset Linux User Group" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2 >I have a utility that stri

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Andrew Morgan
Hi Terry, I have just had to do the same thing on my work laptop which is now running Ubuntu 9.10. I'm not sure if this is the same in Kubuntu but here's the way I did it: Install StartUp-Manager. This can be found in Ubuntu Software Centre, or by running 'apt-get install startupmanager' if yo

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, Andrew Morgan wrote: > ps. My work laptop shuts down/reboots in about 3-4 seconds! I was > amased. But then it isn't much more than a default install + mpd. Regarding rebooting, in recent times reboot(8) has short-circuited the process. It seems to run the new kernel directly whereas in the

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > The only problem is the boot order. On 9.04 I had set this so that > Windows was the default, because this is the family games machine and > mostly runs Windows games. The new system has Kubuntu as the default > and I cannot work out how to change this. Perhaps the `DEFAULT' entry

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-01 Thread Andrew Morgan
Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew Morgan wrote: > >> ps. My work laptop shuts down/reboots in about 3-4 seconds! I was >> amased. But then it isn't much more than a default install + mpd. >> > > Regarding rebooting, in recent times reboot(8) has short-circuited the > process. It seems

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-02 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 02 Nov 2009, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Perhaps the `DEFAULT' entry in /etc/default/grub? (Menu items numbered > from 0.) And then run `sudo update-grub'. Other configuration resides > in /etc/grub.d, allegedly. But none of that probably applies since I > gleaned it from the forum post y

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-02 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 01 Nov 2009, Andrew Morgan wrote: > Install StartUp-Manager. This can be found in Ubuntu Software Centre, or > by running 'apt-get install startupmanager' if you prefer. I searched for anything with 'boot' in the title, but didn't search for 'startup' ;-( > This creates a launcher in S

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-02 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > On Monday 02 Nov 2009, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > Perhaps the `DEFAULT' entry in /etc/default/grub? (Menu items > > numbered from 0.) And then run `sudo update-grub'. Other > > configuration resides in /etc/grub.d, allegedly. But none of that > > probably applies since I gleaned it

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-02 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 02 Nov 2009, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > That's odd. Looking at the 9.10 source of the startupmanager program, > it initially appears it checks on starting that /etc/default/grub, > amongst other files, exists. If it doesn't then it falls back to > assuming you've a legacy grub installation

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-02 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > So what I think happens is that during an upgrade the grub tool looks > for a menu.lst, and if it finds it, it uses it to create the boot > order. If it doesn't, as it won't for a clean install, it creates > /etc/default/grub from the identities of the bootable partitions and > uses

Re: [Dorset] Changing the Boot Order with grub2

2009-11-02 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 02 Nov 2009, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Yes, AIUI the upgrade leaves you at grub 1, and doesn't update the > non-Linux code, whereas a clean install uses grub 2. Version 1 has > menu.lst, 2 has default/grub, so you need to investigate the problem on > the right machine. :-) Yes. But Kubu