Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Sean Gibbins
John Cooper wrote: > So you are questioning my expertise in Linux? Things improved many years > ago with the 2.6 kernel. Today they have surpassed Windoz making Linux > far superior and laptops are no longer problematic. John, without wishing to put words into anyone's mouth, I don't think Mark is

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Tim
oper wrote: > > > > From: John Cooper > > Subject: Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund > > To: mark_elk...@bcs.org, "Dorset Linux User Group" > > Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 6:59 PM > > > > Mark Elkins wrote: > >> Sean > >

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread John Cooper
Mark Elkins wrote: > John > > I beg to disagree with your statement although I would agree that things are > improving all the time. > > Mark > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, John Cooper wrote: > > From: John Cooper > Subject: Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund &

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Mark Elkins
John I beg to disagree with your statement although I would agree that things are improving all the time. Mark --- On Tue, 24/3/09, John Cooper wrote: From: John Cooper Subject: Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund To: mark_elk...@bcs.org, "Dorset Linux User Group" Date: Tuesday

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Sean Gibbins
John Cooper wrote: > This is not true anymore. I haven't seen Ubuntu fail to discover all the > components and configure them correctly. They really have spent much > time sorting the wireless side. The worst case scenario for wireless is > you pay $15 to linuxant for their excellent driverloader

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread John Cooper
Mark Elkins wrote: > Sean > > Even though a staff discount is available is this Acer laptop the best you > can buy to run Ubuntu? It might actually be a better to buy a Dell (or other > make if you can get it) with Ubuntu pre-installed. > > The reason for this advice has been covered on the Dor

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Sean Gibbins
Mark Elkins wrote: > Sean > > £140 for a new 64bit laptop plus perhaps the £20 Vista refund is a serious > temptation. Might be worth letting us know how it all turns out on this > particular machine so as to add to the Linux (Ubuntu) knowledge tree. > Ah, that's £340 for that laptop - it

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Mark Elkins
Gibbins Subject: Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund To: mark_elk...@bcs.org, "Dorset Linux User Group" Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 3:45 PM Mark Elkins wrote: > Sean > > Even though a staff discount is available is this Acer laptop the best you > can buy to run Ubuntu?

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Mark Elkins
Gibbins Subject: Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund To: mark_elk...@bcs.org, "Dorset Linux User Group" Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 3:45 PM Mark Elkins wrote: > Sean > > Even though a staff discount is available is this Acer laptop the best you > can buy to run Ubuntu?

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Hugh Frater
Provided you buy an intel centrino platform laptop and avoid the amd/broadcom/ati package that comes with amd's turion mobile platform your fine with any modern distro. Hugh 2009/3/24 Sean Gibbins : > Mark Elkins wrote: >> Sean >> >> Even though a staff discount is available is this Acer laptop t

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Sean Gibbins
Mark Elkins wrote: > Sean > > Even though a staff discount is available is this Acer laptop the best you > can buy to run Ubuntu? It might actually be a better to buy a Dell (or other > make if you can get it) with Ubuntu pre-installed. > > The reason for this advice has been covered on the Dorse

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund

2009-03-24 Thread Mark Elkins
Mar 2009 09:03:43 + From: Sean Gibbins Subject: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List ,     Dorset Linux Users Group Message-ID: <49c7506f.8060...@funkygibbins.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, Apologies for the

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Sean Gibbins
Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Sean, > > >> Now, bearing in mind I can get a 34 refund on Vista Home Premium, >> that's 16 for 1GB RAM and a 160GB upgrade on the hard drive! >> > > How much is the shipping likely to be given the value of the laptop? > And who chooses the method (and cost) of sh

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Sean, > Now, bearing in mind I can get a 34 refund on Vista Home Premium, > that's 16 for 1GB RAM and a 160GB upgrade on the hard drive! How much is the shipping likely to be given the value of the laptop? And who chooses the method (and cost) of shipping when Acer return it, which you pay.

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Sean Gibbins
John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: > > This came up before with BeOS. Checking Wikipedia and cited links leads to > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/20/be_inc_sues_microsoft/ > http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/print.php/3073811/ > > Short, biased summary: Be Inc. had some agreements to ship dual

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke
Sean Gibbins wrote: > Well, the software install is obviously a cookie-cutter process with the > sort of volumes we are discussing, and I refuse to believe this could > not be similarly automated with a bootable DVD that asks if you want to > install the OS to the bare drive on first boot. Yes the

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Sean Gibbins
Peter Washington wrote: > Hi Sean, > > 2009/3/23 Sean Gibbins : > >> John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: >> >>> Hi Sean, >>> >>> I posted this to #dorset a short while back. It might be useful reading. >>> >>> http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/ >>> >>> >> Hi J

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Peter Washington
Hi Sean, 2009/3/23 Sean Gibbins : > John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: >> Hi Sean, >> >> I posted this to #dorset a short while back.  It might be useful reading. >> >> http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/ >> > > Hi John, > > Thanks for that - it makes Acer's process (see my

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Sean Gibbins
John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: > Hi Sean, > > I posted this to #dorset a short while back. It might be useful reading. > > http://ernstfamily.ch/jonathan/2009/03/hp-refunds-520-of-software/ > Hi John, Thanks for that - it makes Acer's process (see my last reply to myself!) look positively painles

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke
Sean Gibbins wrote: > Hi All, > > Apologies for the cross post but I am looking for the combined wisdom of > both and Hants and Dorset as I am in a bit of a hurry. > > My daughter is buying a bargain laptop from Tescos where she works and > gets a staff discount. The said Acer Acer 5735z is on offe

Re: [Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Sean Gibbins
Sean Gibbins wrote: > > All help appreciated, and I will post the result of my efforts. This is looking less painful than I thought it might be - phoned MS who said Acer will handle the refund, am on the phone to Acer now, listening to some nice music. It can't be this easy, surely? Sean -- Th

[Dorset] Microsoft Vista Refund - Information Sought

2009-03-23 Thread Sean Gibbins
Hi All, Apologies for the cross post but I am looking for the combined wisdom of both and Hants and Dorset as I am in a bit of a hurry. My daughter is buying a bargain laptop from Tescos where she works and gets a staff discount. The said Acer Acer 5735z is on offer and therefore there is some ur