[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-05 Thread milkman
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, John Hays wrote: > > > On May 5, 2010, at 4:49 PM, milkman wrote: > > > I'm new to this group and would like to start off first saying Hello > > to everyone here. Now what I don't understand is this. It seems to > > me that D-Star could just be a huge

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2010-05-07 Thread milkman
Ed,You say that 37 mile is pretty far? I can hit repeaters over 100 miles away everyday on 2m. I work more than one repeater 4 in Harrisburg, Pa- 2 in Hagerstown, Md - 1 in Salisbury, Md- 1 in Crisfield, Md. I work Delaware, Virginia, & DC. All more than 40 miles. So how is D-Star better than t

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2010-05-08 Thread milkman
rt to > complain -- get creative and enjoy! > > Jim - K6JM > > - Original Message ----- > From: milkman > To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:37 PM > Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? > > > &

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2010-05-08 Thread craigkv5e
Only you can decide for yourself...the rest of us are moving forward. Craig KV5E --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "milkman" wrote: Everyone in America does not live in a D-Star hotspot. So that makes it worthless. I give up! >

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2010-05-08 Thread wa1nh
e may > > convert it to a D-Star compatible repeater. I gave him the Hotspot > > hardware, another friend gave him the computer, and he had a spare analog > > radio. So he has D-Star network connectivity for no out of pocket costs. > > Life is too

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2010-05-08 Thread milkman
Brian if you read what I said then maybe you and a few others wouldn't said your dumb comments. Go back and read it. You live in another country. Not in America. But Ed I do thank very much for you openning my eyes to just how worthless D-Star is for most of us living here in America. Thanks eve

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2010-05-08 Thread milkman
I have found a few here with very helpful info. But a few others must have rocks for brains. READ EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID BY ME ROCKY! Or can you understand everything that you read? It not maybe you shouldn't say anything at all. --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "milkman" wrote: > > Br

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2010-05-08 Thread john_ke5c
> I am a member of a lot of lists and I have to say that this is the most > unhelpful topic I have ever read (not to mention that personal attacks have > no place here or on any other list). Isn't it time to end this and move on > to more constructive issues that those of us who use and enjoy D

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2010-05-09 Thread Dale Duke
Thanks, John Dale - W5DUK

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2010-05-05 Thread Francis Miele
i can say its a growing mode here in Connecticut. 5 repeater systems/stacks and new users every week. remember dstar radios do analog too so you get the best of both worlds. Fran, W1FJM On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:50 PM, milkman wrote: > > > > > --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com , > John Hays

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread J. Moen
ject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? Ed,You say that 37 mile is pretty far? I can hit repeaters over 100 miles away everyday on 2m. I work more than one repeater 4 in Harrisburg, Pa- 2 in Hagerstown, Md - 1 in Salisbury, Md- 1 in Crisfield, Md. I work Delaware, Virginia, & DC

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2010-05-08 Thread Jack
Message - From: "milkman" To: Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:45 AM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? >I think that you to are missing my point. None of the D-Star repeaters in >my area are up and running. So no hw can you use what is not there? I DID >N

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
"  My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than analog FM "   Not the norm . ANALOG has more range

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
How many contacts without Internet  or REPEATERS  do you have on D-star at 200 miles or more ? How many states have you worked ? Moving forward is a relative term     We have a motto .   Put up a antenna crank up the power and join us on ANALOG 146.52 SIMPLEX   YOUR COMMENT ...   O

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Gary Lindtner
lkman Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:46 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? I think that you to are missing my point. None of the D-Star repeaters in my area are up and running. So no hw can you use what is not there? I DID NOT SAY THAT I CAN'

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Carl W8KRF
That is totally uncalled for!!! Let's keep it civil. Remember when you are pointing a finger at someone, there are three pointing back at you. W8KRF wa1nh wrote: LID

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Doug Ferrell
>" My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than analog FM " >>Not the norm . ANALOG has more range Analog has more range? Maybe your location but not here D-Star has proved it has more range, same site/antenna/hardline as analog. When it replaced the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
CARL .   Does he even know what a LID is ? I think you do . It is a POOR ( CW ) operator Yes I know it is also used for phone too... So unless he is on the air and your hearing him how can one call another a lid ?   Bruce --- On Sat, 5/8/10, Carl W8KRF wrote:   That is totally unca

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
Sat, 5/8/10, Doug Ferrell wrote: From: Doug Ferrell Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 1:13 PM   >" My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than analog FM " &

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2010-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
BTW   Thank you for serving this country   Bruce US Army 1968-1970 Commo repair state side.

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2010-05-08 Thread Brian Mury
On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 13:45 +, milkman wrote: > Everyone in America does not live in a D-Star hotspot. So that makes > it worthless. I give up! Everyone in America does not live where highspeed internet access is availabe. So that makes highspeed internet access worthless. I am going to call

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Francis Miele
this is becoming off topic for this group and isn't very productive. Please end it. I you don't want to use dstar, don't. It's that simple but i think there has been enough discussion already. Thanks, Fran, W1FJM On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:38 PM, milkman wrote: > > > I have found a few here with

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Andy McMullin
I agree. If you're not interested in D-Star, why waste the time of those who are? Just go and do something else. And you keep forgetting that America is not the whole world either. There's a load of people outside your country who get very bored with US-centric diatribes. Cheers On 8 May 201

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2010-05-08 Thread Bill Jourdain
to bigger and better things. 73, Bill AB4BJ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of milkman Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 3:39 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? I have found a few he

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2010-05-08 Thread Carl W8KRF
AMEN Bill Jourdain wrote: I am a member of a lot of lists and I have to say that this is the most unhelpful topic I have ever read (not to mention that personal attacks have no place here or on any other list). Isn't it time to end this and move on to more constructive issues that those of

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Woodrick, Ed
mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of milkman Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:38 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? Ed,You say that 37 mile is pretty far? I can hit repeaters over 100 miles away everyday on 2m. I work more than one

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Woodrick, Ed
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? I work for the SO and we are ANALOG because MOTOROLA digital p25 does not have as much range. all digital buys us is the ability to transmit data with voice. You are the first person who stated different. The fact it buys us nothing is why we

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:38 AM 5/9/2010, you wrote: >" My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more >range than analog FM " > >Not the norm . ANALOG has more range It depends. I have witnessed many examples of D-STAR performing well on RF paths where FM would have been marginal at beast.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:37 AM 5/9/2010, you wrote: >I agree. If you're not interested in D-Star, why waste the time of >those who are? Just go and do something else. Exactly. There's so much to do in ham radio that if D-STAR is not your thing, there's a lot of other things to choose from. Personally, I enjoy

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread bruce mallon
receivers. Our ANALOG repeater we have 4 of them run over 100 watts and the digital ones will run the same.   That said the ANALOG system wil remain on the air..   --- On Sat, 5/8/10, Woodrick, Ed wrote: From: Woodrick, Ed Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know??? To: "dstar_di

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:58 AM 5/9/2010, you wrote: >I can also hit FM repeaters 100 miles, but there are also FM >repeaters 15 miles away that I can't hit. There's a lot of >variability in how individual repeaters operate. Also, I had no idea >what type of equipment that you have, mobile, handheld, or fixed. >S

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On May 8, 2010, at 3:54 AM, J. Moen wrote: > My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than > analog FM, as long as there's no multipath. I can work a D-Star repeater on > top of Mt. Diablo in northern California from Dixon with my 91AD running less > than 5 watts w

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On May 8, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: > There have been a number of studies that show that D-STAR can have better > coverage. The FEC in D-STAR can have wonderful effect on communications. But > there also have been a few that show in some circumstances, the coverage can > be less. T

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On May 8, 2010, at 7:07 PM, bruce mallon wrote: > Ed . > > All our repeaters are digital ready. > > ICOM digital radios are being bought for our shop NOT because they work > better but we are going to paging and messaging. which the F-4 and F-43 > radios will not do. > Bruce, This i