[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Skier
If you are installing a D*Star repeater stack (2m 440cm modules) can you use a single dual band antenna for both modules or do you need separate antennas for every module in the stack?

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM
star_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Skier Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:58 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack If you are installing a D*Star repeater stack (2m 440cm modules) can you use a single dual band

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel G. Thompson
> If you are installing a D*Star repeater stack (2m 440cm modules) can you > use a single dual band antenna for both modules or do you need separate > antennas for every module in the stack? > That somewhat depends on your preferences. If you are seeking decent performance then I would sugges

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Mike Murphy
__ From: Daniel G. Thompson To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 1:53:32 PM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack > If you are installing a D*Star repeater stack (2m 440cm modules) can you > use a single dual band antenna for both modu

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Bob Cumming
When we initially installed the K1XC Repeater Stack, 2M, 70CM and 23CM modules I tried a Comet Triband antenna and triplexer. It was a disaster with all kinds of interactions and de sense.When we changed out the system to 4 separate antennas (2 antennas for 1.2 Voice and data) most of th

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel G. Thompson
Bob, All good advice, however I would like to add that there are a number of duplexers out there that do both pass and reject such as TX/RX and Wacom (both the same company now I believe) and there are some other ones as well. I like the TX/RX vari-notch design where all cans in the duplexe

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Bob Cumming
Daniel It is true that The band pass/band reject do offer some protection it is not as great as many believe. See http://www.anglelinear.com/repeaters/repeaters.html for a description of the limited filtering of most Cavity type Duplexers. We have duplexers from TX/RX and still needed addi

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:34 AM 4/21/2010, you wrote: >what is the lightning like in your area? >If it is anything like it is here in Florida... go with a commercial grade >antenna... otherwise your putting up a toothpick maker If on a site where any weather extremes are possible - wind, snow, ice, lightning,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel G. Thompson
Bob, Yes, you are right. Many people have found that the D-Star systems need more isolation than a similar FM system especially the UHF units. There has been much discussion about that. I was only trying to add that the pass/reject type filters do offer far more protection from things outside of

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Daniel G. Thompson wrote: > Bob is definately correct that the typical 4 can setup used > on the average FM repeater will cause you nothing but > headaches, and that includes the ultra nice TX/RX stuff. > You either have to go with a 6 can setup using pass/reject > o

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-21 Thread Barry
Another tip from the UK, is to paint the antenna(s) with Marine varnish several times, this prolongs their durability and certainly stops any rain or otherwise penetrating the fiberglass tube(s) over time. Might look ugly, but an ugly working antenna is better than a non working 'clean' one! 7

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-21 Thread beamar
You folks in the UK do it up right. I paint all of my antennas. I lightly sand the fiberglass and paint with water based outdoor house paint. A sky blue color or grey helps camouflage the antenna. Paint tends to last longer than a clear varnish coating. If you want to go first class, use marine