[Duo2400] Re; Expanding the list - not closing it.

Dear Gurus, This list has helped me keep my Duo 280 and 2400c alive and happy. It has been a wonderful resource. I vote to keep it as it is. Donald McCaig Yucatec Farm Williamsville, Virginia 24487 USA -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest pla

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Same old Brandy! Well Hell Lets just have it one big party! Give me more people to give a bad time! Brandy -- Fade far away, dissolve, and quite forget What thou among the leaves hast never known, The weariness, the fever and the fret Here, where men sit and hear each other groan; - John

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it. >From: Mark Kippert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Ivan Drucker on 1/16/03 1:26 PM wrote: > >>> We could always unofficially open this list to the 12", thus keeping

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Well Hell Lets just have it one big party! Give me more people to give a bad time! Brandy From: Mark Kippert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Duo/2400 List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Duo/2400 List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Expanding the lis

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

My point was not to officially invite people over, we'll just keep discussing the Duos/2400 and also the 12" iBook and Pbook. On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 03:52 PM, Mark Kippert wrote: Ivan Drucker on 1/16/03 1:26 PM wrote: We could always unofficially open this list to the 12", thus ke

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Ivan Drucker on 1/16/03 1:26 PM wrote: >> We could always unofficially open this list to the 12", thus keeping the >> group small (a tongue-in-cheek "you can discuss the 12" Powerbook, but >> only if you still own a Duo or 2400"). > > Funny, I had the same thought. We could include the 12" iBook

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 08:46 AM, Larry Friedman wrote: We could always unofficially open this list to the 12", thus keeping the group small (a tongue-in-cheek "you can discuss the 12" Powerbook, but only if you still own a Duo or 2400"). I didn't see this before my last post. I agre

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 08:12 AM, Ivan Drucker wrote: I am not at all xenophobic about new list members. I just want to preserve the nature of the list. To me, it almost seems like less of a reach to expand it to other unusual Macs (PB 100, 20th Anniversary, MacTV, even Cube), because t

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>We could always unofficially open this list to the 12", thus keeping the >group small (a tongue-in-cheek "you can discuss the 12" Powerbook, but >only if you still own a Duo or 2400"). Funny, I had the same thought. We could include the 12" iBook as well (then I'd have a even MORE to say, I wa

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I think the 12" Powerbooks would be more relevant if they could boot into 9 because then all of the 2400 troubleshooting techniques would at least be relevant. We just had a lengthy discussion about D-O-C-S, how is this relevant to an OSX machine regardless of the size? This list appeals to me

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>I remember a debate over 2400c's and Duos being on the same list. The >principal issue raised by the splitters was how different the 2400c was >from the other sub-notebook Duos. Eric decided to not split the list, >partly as I recall because so many 2400c owners also owned or had owned >Duos,

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the List

Duo/2400 List wrote... >From: Jake Luck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Expanding the List >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Buy one of the external batteries from ProVantage and you can then run >> your 2400 for the better part of a day. &g

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

After reading all the responses so far, it appears that Eric has a tough decision. It seems to be roughly divided 50:50 although there have been some defections of early yes votes. I remember a debate over 2400c's and Duos being on the same list. The principal issue raised by the splitters was

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>>...the knowledge and wisdom of guys like ... Chuck Goolsbee I've considered unsubscribing because I'm not really contributing much anymore. Don't think I've seen a Mac list where you don't 'really contribute', Chuck;> Number of replies isn't necessarily a measure... Thanks. I *had* to

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

chuck goolsbee on 1/14/03 10:24 PM wrote: The new 12" G4 is basically an iBook in a new skin with a G4 cpu. That is not enough to get me to buy one. I'd gladly give up my 10 month old iBook for the new skin and much faster G4 processor, PLUS slot loading SuperDrive, NVIDIA GeForce4 with 32M

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list, etc.

Besides in ten years the information will be invaluable as you tell your grand-kids stories of the times when you had to connect to a phone wire and dial up to check email. ~ Larry On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 11:40 AM, David Jobe wrote: I would vote to keep the list as it is, a great

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list, etc.

I would vote to keep the list as it is, a great resource for owners of Duos and 2400s. If (when) the new 12" G4 Powerbook gains a following, it should probably have a list of its own. It'd be too different from this list, I think. I've tried several of Low End Mac's lists, which is how I found y'

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

The biggest question for me is how well it performs, but I'm waiting for one of the mags to tell me that. So far the tests haven't been glowing. Considering they weren't tested under controlled conditions I'm waiting with my judgement. If it is at least faster than my 550 15" (which didn't have

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>>...the knowledge and wisdom of guys like ... Chuck Goolsbee >I've considered unsubscribing because >I'm not really contributing much anymore. Don't think I've seen a Mac list where you don't 'really contribute', Chuck;> Number of replies isn't necessarily a measure... >I *had* to move to a OS

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>But I'm an irrational collector of old >Duos, so perhaps i just need medication. My 280Cs fill a need in the way I organise things, I've got docks at home and at work. I don't miss what they can't do. They're beautifully tactile. And I've got other laptops, but they can't fill the niche.

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

chuck goolsbee on 1/14/03 10:24 PM wrote: > The new 12" G4 is basically an > iBook in a new skin with a G4 cpu. That is not enough to get me to > buy one. > I'd gladly give up my 10 month old iBook for the new skin and much faster G4 processor, PLUS slot loading SuperDrive, NVIDIA GeForce4 with

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

All that said, if I buy a Al/PB-12, I really would rather come here than anywhere else to acquire the knowledge and wisdom of guys like Sidney Ho, Chuck Goolsbee, Ralph, I'm flattered. =) That said though... both Sidney & I have been rather absent of late. I can't speak for Sidney, but I only

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

All that said, if I buy a Al/PB-12, I really would rather come here than anywhere else to acquire the knowledge and wisdom of guys like Sidney Ho, Chuck Goolsbee, Ralph, I'm flattered. =) That said though... both Sidney & I have been rather absent of late. I can't speak for Sidney, but I only

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I've been lurking for a year, since I acquired a Duo 2300. I'm afraid that if the list expanded there would be a lot less of interest to me. Let's stick with the status quo. --Martha Lufkin, who started in '86 with a Plus. -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I'll grow up when they pry "Aaron Lite" out of my cold dead interface. ~ Larry On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 05:53 PM, David Cucuzza wrote: I've got to agree- if the iBook didn't make it on this list, then the new ones shouldn't either. This can be a Neanderthal throwback support list, as f

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I've got to agree- if the iBook didn't make it on this list, then the new ones shouldn't either. This can be a Neanderthal throwback support list, as far as I'm concerned. But I'm an irrational collector of old Duos, so perhaps i just need medication. ;-> David Cucuzza Paul sez: >And I would

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>And I would say "ABSOLUTELY NOT!" There is ALREADY a Powerbook list at >lowendmac, and Eric's lists should be planned in conjunction with Dan >Knight's lists, as they have been up to now. >Paul Relax, I'd agree. I wasn't proposing any unilateral action at the expense of other lists run by Eric

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

-- [ From: Azamat G. Farrakhov * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Why to discuss so much? Is this a problem to open new list expressly for PB G4 Al/12" or subscribe if exist? Possibly sorry for English, Azamat -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac s

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

At 11:48 AM -0500 1/14/03, Ivan Drucker wrote: >Therefore, I would propose expanding it -- but rather than to include the >new "compact" portable, perhaps it should include other older PowerBooks. >I am not sure where the cutoff should be -- pre-Titanium/iBook? Pre-G3? >Old World? And I would say

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the List

> Buy one of the external batteries from ProVantage and you can then run > your 2400 for the better part of a day. > > ~ Larry Has anyone bought and used one of those on the 2400c? jake -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables.

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the List

Hello Everyone, I don't understand why we all want to expand the list. If we are going to take a stance that the 12" PB is a sub notebook, then why didn't we do this when the iBook came out. It at least could share issues with upgraded 2400s that have G3 processors. Just because a G4 processor

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

If the need was there, maybe. This list developed out of a need for a support community. Anyone got a new 12" pb they need support with yet? Andy >> Hi, ListMom here. >> ...trying to decide where we take the list. >> Thoughts? >> >> Eric Prentice >> ListMom -- Duo/2400 List, The friend

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Excellent suggestion, with the disclaimer of those who have upgraded their pre-G3s to G3 (especially with the 1400 upgrade that's now available). ~ Larry On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Ivan Drucker wrote: Hi, ListMom here. ...trying to decide where we take the list. Thoughts? Er

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Hi, ListMom here. ...trying to decide where we take the list. Thoughts? Eric Prentice ListMom Eric, I'm changing my mind... After reading the recent posts, and considering the following, my vote goes to keeping the lists separate. In short? It would be far easier for interested parties to s

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>Hi, ListMom here. >...trying to decide where we take the list. >Thoughts? > >Eric Prentice >ListMom I am sympathetic to expanding the list, because it is a small club that will only dwindle in size. I initially thought it would make sense, when you suggested it, to include the new 12", especial

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list

on 1/14/03 10:59 AM, Larry Friedman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm relatively new to this list so you're more than welcome to take a > "who do you think you are stance" ;-). What happens when someone say > can't we include the 15" and 17" Powerbooks because they are so similar > to the 12". Its

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list

I'm relatively new to this list so you're more than welcome to take a "who do you think you are stance" ;-). What happens when someone say can't we include the 15" and 17" Powerbooks because they are so similar to the 12". Its a tough line to cross, or we can just say that the machine has to be

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list

on 1/14/03 10:17 AM, Big Bird at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If it is intended to be a social discussion list, then it makes a > lot of sense to expand it to whatever computers the current members > own. If the list is intend to be for problem solving and technical > advice, then it seems to me tha

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list

On 1/13/03 Eric Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to decide where we take the list. With the new machines this > list will be less essential for many of us who are upgrading and will > eventually go the way of other great Mac lists. > > I'm considering transitioning the list into a

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the List

Buy one of the external batteries from ProVantage and you can then run your 2400 for the better part of a day. ~ Larry On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 07:03 AM, Donald McCaig wrote: Dear Gurus, The List Mom wrote: "I'm considering transitioning the list into a more general Mac Sub-compacts l

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

What is the reason for including a G4 Powerbook, just because you like the people on this list. Then invite them to the new list. If most of the people on this list don't have a G4 Powerbook then what help will they be able to give you concerning Airport Extreme and OSX? These two models will h

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

50:43 -0800 Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it. From: Eric Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, ListMom here... Regards, Marc -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. F

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

To those worried about the dichotomy between newer and older subcompacts... We *already* have a dichotomy! To those of us with only 2x0 Duos, a lot of the discussion on this list is of little more than academic interest. But yet I still read some of it because there's occasionally useful tidbits

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the List

Dear Gurus, The List Mom wrote: "I'm considering transitioning the list into a more general Mac Sub-compacts list. I'm thinking that this will give us a concise focus while still allowing us to talk about the new machines." I hope you do. My next "new" machine will be one of the 32

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

on 1/14/03 04:25, Dan K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dan K (lusting for . . . well, actually not lusting for anything > on-topic (is Ashley Judd on-topic?)) Oh, man, Ashley is a sooo beautiful off-topic...;-) -- Marcelus. site -- Duo/2400 List, The

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Personally I don't think we should include the 12" Powerbook in this list. What makes this list special is the fact that it's only for duo and 2400 owners and lovers. The 12" Powerbook basically isn't that different from the 17" (a little, but not much), and if we include it, we may as well inc

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I'd start by saying this is a subnotebook list, and that I will define a subnotebook as a notebook without any internal removable-media drives. Therefore, neither the iBook or the Al-12 qualify. Hows that? Aqua -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Sorry to be on the opposition... but I think we should keep the list as is now. In my case, I have only Duos (from a 210 to a 2300c) and have no idea to upgrade them. Adding so different Macs to the List will sure increase the quantity of messages I would discard and, finally, I would probably un

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I vote for including the new 12" Powerbook on the list too. Julian. -- Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at Be sure to visit Mac2400!

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

On 1/13/03 Eric Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm trying to decide where we take the list. With the new machines this >list will be less essential for many of us who are upgrading and will >eventually go the way of other great Mac lists. > >I'm considering transitioning the list into a mor

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Eric, My inflated two-bits 1. This really is a tight, thoughtful community.and differs significantly from the iBook list, for whatever reason. I'd hate to see the focus watered down. It gets a bit diverse, just trying to filter traffic between the Duos and the 2400s as it is. In fac

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Hi, I am new here, I signed on about a week ago or so I have a PB 2400c/180. I've owned it for five years, it is my first and only laptop; and ironically I've just discovered everyone here and this very fine list. I had not planned on doing more than simply lurk for a good while longer;

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Eric Prentice on 1/13/03 7:50 PM wrote: > I'm trying to decide where we take the list. With the new machines this > list will be less essential for many of us who are upgrading and will > eventually go the way of other great Mac lists. > > I'm considering transitioning the list into a more gener

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I vote for including the 12" Powerbook on the list. -- Marcelus. site on 1/13/03 22:50, Eric Prentice at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm considering transitioning the list into a more general Mac Sub-compacts > list. I'm thinking that this will give us a concis

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Seems like the right thing to me... I have an ibook that my school has issued to me though I still use the 2400c more often at school. It just feels better in my hands when walking around taking grades! I'm going to have to go out and check out the newPBG4 when it is in the stores!! I'll probab

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

>Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it. >From: Eric Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi, ListMom here. I feel like the father who's prodigal son has just >returned home. I've ordered my 12" PBG4.

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I'd say YES also. There's a fair likelihood I'll get either a 12" AlPB or iBook in the next year or so. But I'll be keeping at least one Duo. - Eric. -- Eric Strobel (fyzycyst@NOSPAM^mailaps.org) = Remember... Moderation in

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

somewhere near the temporal coordinates of 1/13/03 6:08 PM, the entity known as Pamela sexton transmitted the following from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I've been away on travel, but now than I'm back all the list entries marked > "We can close the list now!" troubles me. I started that topic and quite

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

TED]> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: [Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it. > I vote yes. > > Bill > > On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 04:50 PM, Eric Prentice wrote: > > > Hi, ListMom here. I feel like the father who's prodigal son ha

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I vote yes. Bill On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 04:50 PM, Eric Prentice wrote: Hi, ListMom here. I feel like the father who's prodigal son has just returned home. I've ordered my 12" PBG4. Although I know it will never be the machine that my 2400 was, I'm really excited to have a Macintosh

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

Hi, ListMom here. I feel like the father who's prodigal son has just returned home. I've ordered my 12" PBG4. Although I know it will never be the machine that my 2400 was, I'm really excited to have a Macintosh sub-compact back in the house again. I'm trying to decide where we take the list. W

[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

I'm pretty sure everyone on the list knows the title was in jest. The 2400s aren't magically going anywhere. Rather than dilute the list with discussions of Macs that are very different (and with that the discussions would be of different concerns) the 12" books should be discussed with the 15"