[e-gold-list] RE: free advertising and conflicts

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> >The spend confirmation page, because of the > >way the SCI works, becomes an integral part of the merchant's > shopping cart, > > NO --- "A is A", the SCI is owned by Douglas Jackson's mind. It is >From a legal and software point of view, that's true. You and I think of them as separate entit

[e-gold-list] Re: Advertising on the spend page

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> > but he wouldn't have done that; he would have used banner ads on the > e-gold page, or, this mailing list. > > that would have been a "stupid" business decision! :) Lots of web sites use television advertising. > > Is it because he runs a more efficient > >business? > > Yes - exactly! Hi

[e-gold-list] more bamdex fun

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
I get this when the Bamdex robot puts together a couple of contracts: At 11:16 PM -0500 7/8/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 23:16:41 -0500 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: matcher was run > >return from matcher was ==pair of active contracts created, 2

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>I would prefer not to discuss my vision of a workable e-gold POS in an >open forum. My vision does not include (silly) plastic cards or requiring >the POS to have a full keyboard (and thus requiring a user to enter the >passphrase in a possibly insecure envrionment). > > >Viking Coder ! Sound

[e-gold-list] RE: free advertising and conflicts

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>> >In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad >> >for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart. >> > >> >> This precisely and exactly happens right now. >> >> (1) in a supermarket, the rolling-baskets have ads on them for Pepsi >> -- even t

[e-gold-list] Re: Advertising on the spend page

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>Here's what I perceive to be the fundamental problem with this idea: > >I order some widgets from Bob's Kickass Discount Widgets. Bob has paid for >the development and maintenance of his web site, and so far so good ... > maybe he paid for some >television ads (very expensive) but he wouldn't

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread Viking Coder
> What - you don't like that question? That's no good - what's the > implication here? I didn't say I didn't like the question. I just said that I'm not suprised that you're asking this question. My official answer will come soon. > The core of the current one (I think) is to figure when 10%

[e-gold-list] RE: free advertising and conflicts

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
Samuel Mc Kee wrote: > > > >In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad > > >for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart. > > > > > > > This precisely and exactly happens right now. > > > > (1) in a supermarket, the rolling-baskets have ads

[e-gold-list] Advertising on the spend page

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
Here's what I perceive to be the fundamental problem with this idea: I order some widgets from Bob's Kickass Discount Widgets. Bob has paid for the development and maintenance of his web site, and maybe he paid for some television ads (very expensive) that got my attention and brought me to his w

[e-gold-list] RE: free advertising and conflicts

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> >In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad > >for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart. > > > > This precisely and exactly happens right now. > > (1) in a supermarket, the rolling-baskets have ads on them for Pepsi > -- even though C

[e-gold-list] bamdex robot operations

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
I just thought people here would find it funny to know, that, every single time (scores of times per hour) the Bamdex.com robot fetches via Jay's routines at e-gold the current price of e-gold, I get an email like the following: At 10:42 PM -0500 7/8/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Date: Sun,

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site / other GBCs

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>> Can not this be a non issue gents? > >It could, and not just because people could filter the ads. > >At the end of the day, e-gold will do whatever they want to. They are a >private corporation and can't be forced to do something that don't want. >Has a single GBC given any sign that they are e

[e-gold-list] free advertising and conflicts

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>> How would the general merchant feel if his customers are being showed >> advertising while completing the spend process for his/her site? > >In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad >for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart. > This

[e-gold-list] opt IN, not out

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
At 7:38 PM -0400 7/8/01, Viking Coder wrote: >No, I'm concentrating on the fact that I don't like being forced to view >ads when I'm paying for a service. "But you can turn them off." Privacy >groups usually demand opt-in lists; otherwise it's just called spam. Certainly the default should be "of

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>> > "When will it be useful for large retailers to accept e-gold?" > >gee... How did I know that was going to be the question... > What - you don't like that question? That's no good - what's the implication here? We want only happy Bananagold stats contests! The core of the current one (I t

[e-gold-list] John Galts' ad agency

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>Everybody probably already knows my stand on this issue. I'll try to do an >objective analysis though. > >e-gold averages between 5-10,000 spends in any 24 hours period. >In the past few months, there has been as few as 2500 and as many as >28,000. > >A few relevant questions are: > >How many of

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>> "When will it be useful for large retailers >> to accept e-gold?" >> > >When there is a demand for it and an increase in profit for the retailers by >virtue of the willingness and ease of people to spend > >Kind regards, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Entry #3 ... sort of a philosophical one! :) - -

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Viking Coder
> Can not this be a non issue gents? It could, and not just because people could filter the ads. At the end of the day, e-gold will do whatever they want to. They are a private corporation and can't be forced to do something that don't want. Has a single GBC given any sign that they are even co

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread Michael Moore
My Entry is: When there is a demand for it and an increase in profit for the retailers by virtue of the willingness and ease of people to spend Kind regards, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. http://www.e-gold.com/newa

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread Michael Moore
Did you get my entry? Kind regards, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 9, 2001 11:10 am Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest. > >> OK, here it is: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "When

[e-gold-list] bamdex in the news

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
http://www.bearerinstruments.com/ I'm extremely proud that Bamdex.com is not in the pages of the New York Times (*spit*) but it *is* a small news story on Bearer Instruments. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Advertising is commercial grease, oil, silicon spray to commerce."

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread jpm
>> OK, here it is: >> >> >> >> >> >> "When will it be useful for large retailers >> to accept e-gold?" > >Large retailers are mass retailers serving mass markets. The only way the >average Mum with 1 husband and 2.3 children will be using e-gold on her >shopping trip is if its brought to her by Vi

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Mark S. Ohberg
Bob wrote: > Viking Coder wrote: > > No, I'm concentrating on the fact that I don't like being forced to view > > ads when I'm paying for a service. > > Finally it comes out. You just *personally* don't *like* 'em. > Why didn't you just say that? > > If you don't like 'em, don't look at 'em. You

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Viking Coder
> Finally it comes out. You just *personally* don't *like* 'em. > Why didn't you just say that? I said that a long time ago. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
Samuel Mc Kee wrote: > > > How would the general merchant feel if his customers are being showed > > advertising while completing the spend process for his/her site? > > In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad > for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on P

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
Viking Coder wrote: > > > > Wouldn't it be bad etiquette to advertise for one company while providing > > > a payment service to another company? > > > > I don't understand that question. > > How would the general merchant feel if his customers are being showed > advertising while completing the

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> How would the general merchant feel if his customers are being showed > advertising while completing the spend process for his/her site? In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart. If the NRA

[e-gold-list] Re: Need to "do something" about the value of the dollar

2001-07-08 Thread Craig Spencer
Samuel, I have no fault to find with your analysis revised to include the financial/capital markets. With that addition you are absolutely right that "trade deficits" are bogus and impossible. And you gave good and clear illustrations too. Good luck convincing anyone else tho. Best, Crai

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Viking Coder
> > Wouldn't it be bad etiquette to advertise for one company while providing > > a payment service to another company? > > I don't understand that question. How would the general merchant feel if his customers are being showed advertising while completing the spend process for his/her site? >

[e-gold-list] Re: Need to "do something" about the value of the dollar

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> > They get it by borrowing (assuming the exchange rates don't change > much). > In the short run they can do that, but if that were their long-term solution it would be impossible to pay back those loans because, in the model I presented--which is the model the protectionists accept--borrowing

[e-gold-list] Re: Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
Viking Coder wrote: > > Everybody probably already knows my stand on this issue. I'll try to do an > objective analysis though. > > e-gold averages between 5-10,000 spends in any 24 hours period. > In the past few months, there has been as few as 2500 and as many as > 28,000. > > A few relevant

[e-gold-list] Re: Rapid Spends

2001-07-08 Thread Michael Moore
Khurram, I have now got the demo program and will run it for a while. Looks simple and easy to run. Will let you know how I go. Kind regards, michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. http://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.a

[e-gold-list] Ads on the e-gold site

2001-07-08 Thread Viking Coder
Everybody probably already knows my stand on this issue. I'll try to do an objective analysis though. e-gold averages between 5-10,000 spends in any 24 hours period. In the past few months, there has been as few as 2500 and as many as 28,000. A few relevant questions are: How many of these spe

[e-gold-list] Re: Need to "do something" about the value of the dollar

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
Samuel Mc Kee wrote: > So there's this gigantic and ever-growing pile of U.S. dollars (in the > multitrillions, if we are to believe the protectionists) "The reason why the dollar has continued to rise in the face of large deficits is because there is a scarcity of dollars in the world econo

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread Michael Moore
> "When will it be useful for large retailers > to accept e-gold?" > When there is a demand for it and an increase in profit for the retailers by virtue of the willingness and ease of people to spend Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com --- You are currently subscr

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread David Hillary
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] The Bananagold Stats Contest. > OK, here it is: > > > > > > "When will it be useful for large retailers > to accept e-gold?" Large retaile

[e-gold-list] Re: Need to "do something" about the value of the dollar

2001-07-08 Thread David Hillary
While the article in question is largely political bullshit, Samuel Mc Kee's response included the denial of the possibility of a trade deficit, something which is little better. The USA has a large trade deficit meaning the value of its imports is much less than the value of its exports. This m

[e-gold-list] Re: Need to "do something" about the value of the dollar

2001-07-08 Thread Craig Spencer
Samuel, > The article also conjures up the bogeyman of the "trade deficit," which is > an accounting gimmick used to scare the economically illiterate, Exactly so. > since the existence of a trade deficit using honest accounting is > mathematically impossible. Well, not quite. Gifts and loa

[e-gold-list] Need to "do something" about the value of the dollar

2001-07-08 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brucebartlett/bb20010707.shtml I think it was Johnathan Swift who said that a lot of really awful policies stem from the belief the we need to "do something." How about returning to the gold standard and letting monetary policy sort itself out with market effic

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread Viking Coder
> > "When will it be useful for large retailers to accept e-gold?" gee... How did I know that was going to be the question... > uuuhhh... when ADS are allowed on the E-Gold Spend Page??? Here we go again... :( Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?Vik

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread SnowDog
>>>As a postscript, if I was in that position it would not occur to me to call the police before I had at least called the person I sent the money to (ie the MM) who would presumably have a listed number. This whole auction scammers deal is incomprehensible... or maybe somebody has a hidden agenda

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread offshoresurfer
> OK, but how does the Exchange Service stop the police from being called by > those who get scammed, over and over again, with accusations that YOU are > the thief? It's not possible to continue to do business in that kind of > environment As a postscript, if I was in that position it would not

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread offshoresurfer
Hi, > OK, but how does the Exchange Service stop the police from being called by > those who get scammed, over and over again, with accusations that YOU are > the thief? It's not possible to continue to do business in that kind of > environment. I totally agree. I can only imagine that "that ki

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread SnowDog
>>>I still think anyone who sends money up front without having any idea about the seller (e-Bay has a perfectly good system of feedback on sellers, they have escrow facilities etc etc) basically only has themselves to blame. It is not something any person with half a brain would do, unless perhap

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread offshoresurfer
> Having a payment be non-repudiable does not stop a main scam being used > TODAY: I still think anyone who sends money up front without having any idea about the seller (e-Bay has a perfectly good system of feedback on sellers, they have escrow facilities etc etc) basically only has themselves

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
SnowDog wrote: > > > "When will it be useful for large retailers > > to accept e-gold?" > > uuuhhh... when ADS are allowed on the E-Gold Spend Page??? Riiight! Where's the problem on the spend confirmation page? William Penn said--if you protect men from folly, you'll get a nation of fool

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread SnowDog
"[...] However if you accept, say, wire transfers as a form of payment, or cash paid in over the counter to one of your bank accounts, I would say it is non-repudiable anyway. If I pay by check, I think it is reasonable that someone waits until the check has cleared before providing services. Anyo

[e-gold-list] Re: The Bananagold Stats Contest.

2001-07-08 Thread SnowDog
> "When will it be useful for large retailers > to accept e-gold?" uuuhhh... when ADS are allowed on the E-Gold Spend Page??? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal

2001-07-08 Thread offshoresurfer
Hello Eric, Thanks for your detailed reply. First of all may I say you are absolutely entitled to run your business any way you like, including asking for ID, and I am happy to follow your suggestion of using MMs who do not ask for ID. So we are both in agreement, basically. See my other comme

[e-gold-list] Re: egold for cash

2001-07-08 Thread Bob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Eric, is the REVERSE possible, can you somehow have people pick up > >> cash at banks when they sell e-gold? > > > >Isn't that usually called a bank wire? :) > > heh - swift wires aren't worth the paper they're not printed on anymore, eh? > > But for small amount