[e-gold-list] market makers: Cambist is best.

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Nick, > And you don't need to use cambist.net (sorry!) to > change your e-gold for e-bullion first. No need to apologize! We cannot yet do any e-gold <> e-Bullion transactions automagically. We do them all manually, so I don't mind not having to do them for e-Fidex.com customers! > As fo

[e-gold-list] Exactly how much gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Craig (the SnowDog), >Jim, you're just confused. Just and confused, I agree! > There are NO bars in Ontario any more. One year ago, there > was 116 bars in Toronto at the Bank of Nova Scotia. Yes, I see that. But, for some odd reason, the folks at e-gold.com insisted on pointing me at

[e-gold-list] DigiGold???

2002-02-19 Thread Henry Martyn
I have noticed that OmniPay still has DigiGold exchange services listed on their website, but as far as I know they are still embroiled in a law suit with the former operator of a server that's required for DigiGold to work. As far as I know this has been the case since some time last year, an

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Dagny Taggart
Jim, --- Jim Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes. I do think that Mr. Jim Ray or Mr. Doug Jackson or > someone else at e-gold or Omnipay ought to take a minute -snip-- That would show appropriate respect to their customers, which I have not seen, ever in dealing with e-gold,

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold has other issues, too

2002-02-19 Thread jpm
HAH!!! >JP, > >E-gold is approximately to money as email is to letters. :) > >CCS http://approximately-two-cents-worth.com/241164 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Ke

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold has other issues, too

2002-02-19 Thread Craig Spencer
JP, E-gold is approximately to money as email is to letters. :) CCS --- - Virtual Phonecards - Instant Pin by Email - -Large Selection - Great Rates- - http://speedypin.com/phonecard/start.mhtml?af=743 - --

[e-gold-list] re: terrorist use of gold

2002-02-19 Thread John
Your comments and quotes remind me of something I read in a book call POWERSHIFT. Thinking about it, it would seem that the web and it's derivative GBC's like E_GOLD may in fact be the very prediction made. Granting People power that did not involve nation states. That once again put people on top

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 20 Feb 2002, at 4:08, major bosco wrote: > Hmm,, you may want to to tell your bosses at Goldmoney to be careful I > hear they (E-Bullion) have a patent pending on this process??? What can I say mb, we all have our favorite DGC! Patent or no patent! Claude Cormier Ormetal Inc. http://www.

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread John
Oh good, now we got 2 like this!! JP and JB LOL - ROTFLMAO http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?130074?EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-g

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread major bosco
Hmm,, you may want to to tell your bosses at Goldmoney to be careful I hear they (E-Bullion) have a patent pending on this process??? LOL - ROTFLMAO... JB >On 19 Feb 2002, at 17:33, SnowDog wrote: > > > Yes, you get spot price, but last I checked, there was a $5 fee for > > the transfer. So

[e-gold-list] re: terrorist use of gold

2002-02-19 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:08 PM 2/19/2002 +, Billet and Acrylic UK Gold Services wrote: >That makes interesting reading John >It makes you wonder if the war on Terrorism is winnable (if there is such a >word) There is no War on Terrorism any more than there is a War on Drugs. There are only wars on people who d

[e-gold-list] Escrow-gold

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
Well, Escrow-gold.com is really raising a ruckus on ubid.com. I've had two people call me today, and now people are putting up warnings. http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=524044801 Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold has other issues, too

2002-02-19 Thread jpm
> >PSS: Note, also, that the gold amount is an approximation. There is not >exactly 53,200 ounces in aggregate; the bars do not weigh equally 400oz >each. Wow! So e-gold is APPROXIMATELY gold itself circulated electronically! ;) hee hee .. I've tickled myself now. The e-gold spend page shou

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold has other issues, too

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> Now, I remain confused about how the gold bars add up. > There are reported in the Central Escrow inspection > 116 bars in Ontario, whereas there are reported to be > 58 bars in Dubai, 71 in London, and 4 in Zurich on the > examiner.html page. So, which bars are in Ontario? Jim, you're just co

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold has other issues, too

2002-02-19 Thread jpm
(Ironically I quoted too many lines to go on the e-gold list! Read the full text on the dgclist I guess!) Essentially perfectly stated, Jim Davidson! These issues have bothered me too, but I've stopped harping on them! I fully trust Jim and Douglas etc., and when they sday "the tidy solution

[e-gold-list] Re: where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: "Jim Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Patrick: it is Cambist.net, not Cambist.com! Please! > http://www.Cambist.net/ Ugh, that was a terrible mistake, Jim. I definitely know better -- it was brain fatigue from a little too much coding today. -- Patrick Cambist.net. May Scale. Cambis

[e-gold-list] Re: Redirection wanted

2002-02-19 Thread Ben Legume
Thanks JPM! I considered Banana, but I thought that Amazon shipped the items as per normal. I'll check it out! New Books at Discount Prices --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au --- You are

[e-gold-list] Re: where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Friends, Patrick: it is Cambist.net, not Cambist.com! Please! http://www.Cambist.net/ And, yes, I do plan to crawl all over the ability to take DGCs and pay out to credit cards and other cards, automagically, as well as pay out by check. Dagny wrote: >That would show appropriate respect

[e-gold-list] e-gold has other issues, too

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Friends, I would like to thank "Dagny Taggart" for keeping after this issue of e-gold's "examiner" pages. I have some more questions, now, than I did earlier today. First, a quick review. I compared the pages at: http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html and http://www.e-gold.com/ceal-inspect

[e-gold-list] Morgan conspiracy

2002-02-19 Thread Fidex Marketing
To John, Thanks for recommending the book. I haven't read it but will try to check it out. I tried to send you this mail off-list but your ISP Road Runner has some incredibly complicated spam blocker in place which bounced the mail. The mail was sent by our own server e-fidex.com. I just spent n

[e-gold-list] Re: Jay sorts it out...

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >a little lube for the friction may come from a different > >mind set... > > That's absoltuely clever Jay! > > The market maker who first offers very easy PAYMENT OF YOUR CREDIT > CARD via their web page interface, will go big! I've used Xodds.com for this and it work

[e-gold-list] too much e-gold!

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Friends, Have you ever had too much GoldMoney? Do you have too much GoldMoney, right now? Well, if you do, and what you want is to spend e-gold to someone, or have some in your e-gold account, you should hop right over to http://www.Cambist.net/ for an exchange. You could exchange 100 gram

[e-gold-list] Re: get and use an e-fidex card

2002-02-19 Thread jpm
I have an e-fidex card, and it is "miraculous" - it's great. I have not tried the other cards, but I will -- I'm sure others are also good. Enjoy! >If I may make a comparison, the Fidex debit card has ZERO transaction fees >whatsoever if you move money from e-gold to the card, then spend it in

[e-gold-list] Re: Jay sorts it out...

2002-02-19 Thread jpm
That's absoltuely clever Jay! The market maker who first offers very easy PAYMENT OF YOUR CREDIT CARD via their web page interface, will go big! >a little lube for the friction may come from a different >mind set...sure it's nice to spend gold directly, but it >really isn't that bad to shop wi

[e-gold-list] dollar <> DGC

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Patrick, I agree that the path from dollars to digital gold-backed currencies (DGCs) and back is important. Making those transitions workable is a big part of the work I see Cambist.net doing in the future. Right now, today, we work with Yahoo PayDirect and even show their funky icon on ou

[e-gold-list] re: Escrow-Gold SCAM WARNING!

2002-02-19 Thread Sidd
I agree with Vlad 100%! We have also been notified of another so-called escrow site that looks very fishy: http://www.faster-escrows.com/index.html Please be careful, this is almost certainly a SCAM. Sidd. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2002

[e-gold-list] Auction improvements

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear JP, > I got outbid because I don't understand these stupid > online auctions! I don't know that such is true. It may be that you got outbid for something you wanted because GoldBarter.com needs to be improved. You were not, I think, part of the beta test version when auctions did not cou

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Fidex Marketing
As a little aside, it was also Morgan who led to the birth of our country of registration, the Republic of Panama, so that he could sell the canal rights to the US government. It's a very interesting story about which a book was recently published, though I have unfortunately not had a chance to r

[e-gold-list] re: terrorist use of gold

2002-02-19 Thread Billet and Acrylic UK Gold Services
That makes interesting reading John It makes you wonder if the war on Terrorism is winnable (if there is such a word) Kind Regards Billet and Acrylic Gold Admin Buy Billet Aluminium for E-Gold at ~ http://www.billetandacrylic.co.uk/ ~ > This was on sovereign society's latest. > > http://www

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread John
Morgan and his cronies were also the bunch that stuck us with the feral reserve in the first place. That staory will also make you sick. A President going along with the scheme in return for a seat on the supreme ct. and much much more... John http://www

[e-gold-list] re: terrorist use of gold

2002-02-19 Thread John
This was on sovereign society's latest. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22303-2002Feb16.html http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?130074?EG --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Dagny, Yes. I do think that Mr. Jim Ray or Mr. Doug Jackson or someone else at e-gold or Omnipay ought to take a minute or two to explain things a bit better. Maybe Jay Wherley could then put the explanation on a page on the e-gold site. We have a page at e-gold that says that there is a

[e-gold-list] Re: Charge back problem

2002-02-19 Thread jpm
> >Hi, > > >I have been selling software on the net for over two years and I have to say >chargebacks have not been a problem so far Danny, the problem is when you're selling *GOLD*, ie ACTUAL MONEY! for credit cards. Let's say you started selling actuall US Dollars, over the internet, f

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> I have asked on this list multiple times before, no > one from e-gold ever bothered to explain this anomaly > to their customers. > Why publish the other two agreements and not the one > you supposedly have with someone somewhere in Zurich? > > It has always caused me to question the credibility

[e-gold-list] steep drop

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Craig, >> Looks like the Fed got a little more than upset >> at gold's price rise between 10:00am and 11:30 am. > >I've never seen it fall that fast. While I have not seen the price fall that fast in recent weeks, I did see, just a few days ago, a very sharp drop in price (about three US d

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Dagny Taggart
Jim, Your points are well made, it has been one of my points of contention in the past, that we know nothing of the location or agreements of the four bars that are supposedly stored in Switzerland. http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html I have asked on this list multiple times before, no one from

[e-gold-list] Planetgold & Standard Reserve & Gaithmans

2002-02-19 Thread Ragnar
It has come to Planetgold's attention that Standard Reserve is willing to make itself available for an interview. We should now be able to hear both sides of the story and receive insight about the internal workings and happenings at Standard Reserve. Regards, Ragnar editor, Planetgold editor

[e-gold-list] Re: where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Fidex Marketing
> > Frankly, I find this confusing, because their page: > > http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html > > suggests that all their 400 oz. bars (which are not all > > 400 oz., as we know) are stored in Dubai, Zurich, or > > London, as far as I can see. So, why are there 116 bars > > in a chartered bank

[e-gold-list] Re: where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> Frankly, I find this confusing, because their page: > http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html > suggests that all their 400 oz. bars (which are not all > 400 oz., as we know) are stored in Dubai, Zurich, or > London, as far as I can see. So, why are there 116 bars > in a chartered bank in Ontario

[e-gold-list] where is your gold?

2002-02-19 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear James, Thanks for the information on MAT/Via Mat. It would seem that there is at least an implied criticism of e-gold's storage practices to be made here. In particular, from an e-gold page at http://www.e-gold.com/ceal-inspection-2001-02-22.htm we have, "Inspection of gold, silver and pa

[e-gold-list] market maker competitive guide?

2002-02-19 Thread David Beroff
Perhaps I am skating on thin ice here (seeing as there are so many market makers on this list), but... Does there exist a competitive guide to the e-gold market makers, dynamically updated, so that one can compare bid/ask spreads (i.e., premia and discounts) for various transactions (e.g., based

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 19 Feb 2002, at 17:33, SnowDog wrote: > Yes, you get spot price, but last I checked, there was a $5 fee for > the transfer. So move $500 at a time to keep the cost at 1%. Move > money from E-gold or GoldMoney through Gaithmans at 1%, and the whole > transfer into the card account can be done

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> Craig, do you get spot price when you sell your e-bullion to your > card and is there a fee for the transfer ? Yes, you get spot price, but last I checked, there was a $5 fee for the transfer. So move $500 at a time to keep the cost at 1%. Move money from E-gold or GoldMoney through Gaithmans a

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> As for expressing things in dollars, that suits most people best at the > moment but we can also issue cards in Euros. Good work on the card, but here, Patrick was lamenting the fact that E-Bullion requires spends to be denominated in dollars, though the accounts are backed by gold. Craig -

[e-gold-list] Re: fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: "Fidex Marketing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Plus, they (e-bullion) just HAD to express everything in dollars, didn't they? > > As for expressing things in dollars, that suits most people best at the > moment but we can also issue cards in Euros. No, I wasn't talking about the debit cards, ju

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 19 Feb 2002, at 16:39, SnowDog wrote: > and then through e-bullion to the card account. Craig, do you get spot price when you sell your e-bullion to your card and is there a fee for the transfer ? Claude Cormier Ormetal Inc. http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com ==

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread Fidex Marketing
> From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The E-Bullion Debit Card is great! Only $35 plus small transactional fees. > I > > can move money from E-Gold to my ATM in just a few hours, using > Cambist.net, > > (or Gaithmans!), and then through e-bullion to the card account. > > Maybe e-bullion doe

[e-gold-list] Re: comment on "HIGH FRICTION"

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: "Jay W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > a little lube for the friction may come from a different > mind set... (snip) follow up by using an exchange provider > to pay off your credit card each month in exchange for gold. Very astute, Jay! A good example of how people can adapt to existing economic

[e-gold-list] Ragnar responds to Eric Gaithman's concerns re: planetgold

2002-02-19 Thread Ragnar
> I think your statement to the message board is a bit > deceptive. You are > implying that there exists some kind of serious tension > between Gaithmans > and Standard Reserve. On the contrary, there is no tension > nor problems as > there is simply no relationship. I feel a little taken > ad

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The E-Bullion Debit Card is great! Only $35 plus small transactional fees. I > can move money from E-Gold to my ATM in just a few hours, using Cambist.net, > (or Gaithmans!), and then through e-bullion to the card account. Maybe e-bullion does have an advanta

[e-gold-list] comment on "HIGH FRICTION"

2002-02-19 Thread Jay W.
> Any way you look at it, the dollar <=> gold path is HIGH FRICTION! a little lube for the friction may come from a different mind set...sure it's nice to spend gold directly, but it really isn't that bad to shop with a credit card. follow up by using an exchange provider to pay off your credit

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> 2. Gee, I've got plenty of gold in my account, but now I want to go grocery > shopping. I sure wish I could INSTANTLY convert some of that gold to US > funny-money so I could use it at the grocery store! The E-Bullion Debit Card is great! Only $35 plus small transactional fees. I can move mon

[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
>Are there any other points that you would like addressed? Again, feel > free to use E-Count or PayPal, Patrick, I just prefer the GBC's due to the > experiences I have had in the last two + years. Thanks for sharing your wealth of experience here, Eric. The reason I've been messing around

[e-gold-list] Re: Charge back problem

2002-02-19 Thread GoldCom Admin.
>-- > >Subject: Charge back problem >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... >Let's discuss please "charge back" problem for online businesses that >accept directly or indirectly (PayPal, Click bank etc) credit cards. >

[e-gold-list] Fraud problems

2002-02-19 Thread The Gaithman
Patrick, (snip) I understand the problems with PayPal, but was not aware of any problems with c2it and ecount. I was illustrating the point that the "payment systems" were inherently flawed when mixed with *non-repudiable* forms of payment as a business decision. Thieves were opening hundr

[e-gold-list] Re: Charge back problem

2002-02-19 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
A charge back on software sales may not be a big problem since the profit margin is almost 100%. So 1% charge back will not change the big picture. But the exchnage provider who has a small profit margin of a few percents cannot afford even 0.1% chargeback. And I certainly agree with Craig wh

[e-gold-list] Re: Charge back problem

2002-02-19 Thread SnowDog
> I have been selling software on the net for over two years and I have to say > chargebacks have not been a problem so far. > There have been less than 1% chargebacks for me. > I use the service at Digibuy.com > > For me the trick is to overdeliver on what you promise in your webpages. > I give m

[e-gold-list] Are all credit-card funded systems inherently evil?

2002-02-19 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://planetgold.com > > another "must-read" interview! Eric Gaithman casts a critical eye on dollar-based payment systems such as PayPal, E-Money Mail, C2IT, and Ecount. I understand the problems with PayPal, but was

[e-gold-list] Re: Charge back problem

2002-02-19 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> Dear Sirs, > > Let's discuss please "charge back" problem for online businesses that > accept directly or indirectly (PayPal, Click bank etc) credit cards. > > Is there any reasonable way (exept accepting e-currencies ) to fight with > bad customers who bought your online product using credit c

[e-gold-list] Swap Platinum for e-gold, OSGold, EVOcash

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