[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
he charts you want are at http://gold-price.net Great site, thanks for the reminder! They don't show NZD yet though. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboa

[e-gold-list] USD, GAU, EUR, AUD, etc.

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ush's announcement that he was lifting steel tariffs. The drop didn't last long though. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when a

[e-gold-list] Re: gold price downturn and investment vehicles

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ormal currency trading in the parent trading system, though it would complicate the accounting quite a bit. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when

[e-gold-list] Close above $400

2003-12-01 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
OK, there's your NY close above $400: http://kitco.com/charts/popup/au24hr3day.html Closed at $402.20. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard

[e-gold-list] CASHCARDS: noone cares that they ran with the money?

2003-12-01 Thread Patrick Verbeer
guys who sustained him until now, and said "No, he is not scam" just to give him time to prepare his big RIPPOFF. Someone can answer these questions ? Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECT

[e-gold-list] Re: Pecunix security

2003-11-26 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 11:46 AM, FileMatrix wrote: Right, Patrick. For a moment I forgot that only a few elements from the PIK are used in a log-in. ... Gotcha. ... A separate, unique, private log-in ID is required. Besides, as Ian Green points out, locking out an account for

[e-gold-list] Re: Pecunix security

2003-11-26 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
account and then take advantage of the disgruntled FileMatrix customers who got bad service. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e

[e-gold-list] Re: the world before e-gold

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, November 24, 2003, at 05:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the world before e-gold feels like the world currently!! Zen man awakes and speaks enigma. New wonders on horizon? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank

[e-gold-list] gold-cart.com

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
five or ten minutes of effort. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to

[e-gold-list] Re: the BEST way to save money

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ase price is coming from? Those of us who carry the GE Consumer Finance credit cards! I do not grasp the point or the reasoning there. Certain people spend 24% more per purchase, and that extra "purchase price" is coming from someone else's pockets? What the? -- Patrick --- You

[e-gold-list] Re: Goldbugs are Atheist Commie Terrorists?

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
market peaceful goldbugs. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to h

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... & trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
t only the holder of the private key can successfully answer. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shop

[e-gold-list] Re: Pecunix security

2003-11-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 07:34 PM, Jim Davidson wrote: I believe Patrick made the point But the way Pecunix displays the PIKs makes it difficult if not impossible to copy and paste them. ... Since we know that keystroke loggers and clipboard loggers are out there, it seems uncommonly

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... & trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
lets them read a message as it is displayed on your computer screen after you decrypt it. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing y

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... & trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
x27;t have your secret Login ID. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces

[e-gold-list] Re: the "all in one" IG system .. JP speaks

2003-11-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ard to seeing the innovations at Open2Exchange also. Enjoy your weekend with the family. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing you

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... & trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ainly creating a new account is a horse of a different color, I'll admit. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold acc

[e-gold-list] Re: Gold-Cart Article... & trusting e-gold/delayed payments

2003-11-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
: H: (combo 0-9) N: (combo 0-9) Z: (combo 0-9) D: (combo 0-9) That might be nice. -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when acc

[e-gold-list] Watch the NY Open

2003-11-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Some kind of blip in London gold today, could get interesting in NY. http://kitco.com/charts/popup/au24hr3day.html -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard

[e-gold-list] Re: Delayed payments

2003-11-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
e. It's kind of hard to go wrong with Pecunix also because you just spend to an email address. But even in these cases it's comforting to know the account name when making a spend. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a bl

[e-gold-list] Re: Delayed payments

2003-11-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ome people just CUT BACK on smoking or drinking, moderating their consumption. That concept is somewhat anathema in today's irrational Zero Tolerance culture. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL P

[e-gold-list] Re: New Shopping Cart System Accepts Multiple Gold Currencies

2003-11-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ept. Just accept Pecunix and anyone can pay you. -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the

[e-gold-list] touched $400

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Gold just now touched $400 per troy ounce, at about 00:47 UTC on Wednesday November 19, 2003. http://kitco.com/charts/popup/au24hr3day.html -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold&#

[e-gold-list] Re: Finding serious e-gold investors...

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
AND the database!) I would believe Doug and Jay and disbelieve the gigantic accounting firm. I understand completely. I guess I'm just a sucker for this kind of thing: http://pecunix.info/gold_bars.htm http://goldmoney.com/en/report.html -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Re: basic e-gold site usage experience

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
". Instead, you'd have to say "123456.789" or "123456,789" or "123 456.789" etc. etc. I mean really, how often is it important to use a damn separator character in an e-gold spend amount? How many kilogram or microgram spends do people really do, and wo

[e-gold-list] Gold Price Retrace

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
There's a nice retracing of the gold price after yesterday's plummet: http://kitco.com/charts/popup/au24hr3day.html -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Rand

[e-gold-list] Re: E-land, nuts, savings

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
oting statement. The only things I really know about common stocks are (1) some of them pay dividends and (2) all of them fluctuate in price. -- Patrick “We are here on earth to do good for others. What the others are here for, I don't know.” -- W.H. Auden on the subject of altruism -

[e-gold-list] Re: basic e-gold site usage experience

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
must be either digits or spaces. That's it. This sensible rule is in harmony with the ISO 31-0:1992 standard that John Kenrick noted on this list, and with the standard that David Hillary learned in school. -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as:

[e-gold-list] Re: basic e-gold site usage experience

2003-11-18 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
of embedded white space. (Enemies would include programming language devotees with a natural aversion to white space in a numeric constant.) -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's S

[e-gold-list] Re: basic e-gold site usage experience

2003-11-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, November 17, 2003, at 09:48 PM, Wilkinson Jens wrote: --- Patrick Chkoreff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Of course, what the heck is a "small space" in the ASCII character set? This is just a guess, but there are some languages like Chinese, Japanese, and Arabic that c

[e-gold-list] Re: Finding serious e-gold investors...

2003-11-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
n an audit? Also, is the old audit still on the site somewhere? I didn't find it in the site map, and the word "audit" does not even appear in the User Agreement. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email t

[e-gold-list] Re: basic e-gold site usage experience

2003-11-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
With that convention you can represent a decimal number using either the American '.' convention or the European ',' convention. You could even separate digits to the right of the point using '_' as well. 1_234_567_890.141_592_653_589_793_23 -- or -- 1_234_567_89

[e-gold-list] CASHCARDS PROBLEMS: BIG SCAM PREPARED !!! BEWARE !!!

2003-11-17 Thread Patrick Verbeer
y are just another BIG lie. He fooled most of us, but not everyone. Anyone who has informations on Steve Renner: let's gather our informations and catch him before he decides to run to a private island in Pacific ! Sincerely yours Patrick Vehebungen --- You are currently subscribed to e-go

[e-gold-list] Re: e-wine, e-land, e-gold

2003-11-10 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 02:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, last night my wife and I went out for supper with a neighbor couple who collect wine. He brought a 1989 Margaux .. which Chateaux dude ??? Chateau Prieure Lichine. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e

[e-gold-list] Re: e-wine, e-land, e-gold

2003-11-10 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
es alone without any reference to some other homogenous system of units is possible. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-go

[e-gold-list] ... and e-weed etc.

2003-11-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
e wine, land, weed, etc. could even EXCEED the total amount of actual gold or dollars available for trade and the whole thing could still work. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold'

[e-gold-list] e-wine, e-land, e-gold

2003-11-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ined physical and logical entities -- certainly that is not a requirement of the system. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e

[e-gold-list] Re: Saving (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-11-07 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: Saving money does not serve any purpose. Continuously invest all the money you don't need. Yes, I think it's good to invest one's savings. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAI

[e-gold-list] Re: Saving (was Re: e-gold for stocks)

2003-11-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
d for future purchases. Definitely invest assets in enterprises other than the big banking shell game. You know, in spite of my opposition to Robert B.Z.'s suggestion that interest should be outlawed, I do appreciate some of what Robert is saying. There is a huge amount of evil associa

[e-gold-list] Re: Interesting Change

2003-11-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
llars) explicitly, but didn't it always do that? What am I missing? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s)

[e-gold-list] Purpose of Saving

2003-11-05 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
difference is called capital consumption. If the income available is greater than the amount consumed, the difference is called saving. Among the main tasks of economic calculation are those of establishing the magnitudes of income, saving, and capital consumption. -- Patrick --- You are curre

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-11-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
t is important to pump up the money supply to force people to invest. I think these are false. My problem with your last post is that all I saw was a bunch of free-floating examples about zero-sum money moving around, and I didn't see you connecting with your points and driving them

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-11-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
littering tautologies all day long, but I don't remember what point you're trying to make. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when acce

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-11-02 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
h you can consume or trade in the future. By that definition, it is both possible and desirable for every individual on earth simultaneously to save. There is no zero-sum arithmetical constraint as you describe. The survival of the species does not depend on the existence of net debtors. --

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-11-01 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
n use) if you want to save anything. Of course it's bad for a farmer to grow 300 acres of tomatoes he can't sell, just letting them rot in the field. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-31 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
t's why we need to take Keynes' advice and stamp expiration dates on money. I briefly heard about that one. What, is it "hot potato" style, or like "musical chairs?" Last sucker left holding the bag at midnight loses it all? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscr

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-31 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
t to pump up the money supply so that savings will constantly erode in value, thus forcing people to invest when and where they otherwise might not invest. God forbid the money should just "sit there." Without all you social engineers running things, no doubt the entire world would j

[e-gold-list] Re: How good is gold?

2003-10-31 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
thers. There is no need to "choose" one as some kind of absolutely superior standard of value. They're both valuable. The same kind of consideration applies to everything else in life, even computer programming languages. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-31 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
Patrick wrote: It's a wild wacky spending binge from top to bottom! Prices are going through the roof! And why? Because when you bail an asset into a vault and get a note for that asset, then both the original asset AND the note both "EXIST!" And when two items that are b

[e-gold-list] Re: Free e-gold or Pecunix exchange!

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
xperiencing some kind of permanent shortage of e-bullion? I know I personally am getting low, but it seems like it's nowhere to be found! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's

[e-gold-list] e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
vings deposits. I guess the idea is that cash and checking account balances are pretty much equally liquid, and the extra components in M2 are clearly less liquid. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PRO

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ich is why they call it a "deposit" and not a "bailment." Please explain. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing yo

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: I don't know if either of these is a better way of viewing it, or they are equivalent, or there is some other better way of viewing it. But I think there is a meaningful, well-defined distinction that can be made betw

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
If you want to sell Cadillacs, just show some flashy images and play a Led Zeppelin riff. People will always "buy stuff" if you just get the hell out of their way, get your hands off their paychecks, keep your rules off their affairs, stop adulterating the money, and stop trying to con

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Robert B.Z. wrote: Patrick, Just one item: Inflation isn't the same as rising prices. Not every inflation results in higher prices and higher prices are not always caused by inflation. Right, I'm actually well aware of this "Austrian&

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-30 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
nse to understand your "house" example as you have described it above, please break it down for me and illustrate how suddenly we would have BRAND NEW DUPLICATE ASSETS running around chasing goods and driving up prices. Because that's what I thought we were talking about, actual me

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
amount of money available for use in trade. I assume your questions refer to some motivational effect, where the existence of a system prompts more people to find assets to bail into that system, or something along those lines, am I right? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-go

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Robert B.Z. wrote: "Your point is well taken, but you made one small mistake there, JP. 1mdc does NOT expand the money supply in any way. -- Patrick" In a way it actually does. Much in the same way a bank deposit or holding a balan

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
t is well taken, but you made one small mistake there, JP. 1mdc does NOT expand the money supply in any way. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK)

[e-gold-list] new hero of the e-gold list

2003-10-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
OK, John Kyle of Cambist.net is the new hero of the e-gold list. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) vi

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
he very least I can get a good laugh and decline to participate. You bring up some fun things to consider, Robert! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboa

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold for stocks

2003-10-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
kens. If you give me 20% of the initial issue I promise to kick back 50% of anything I get for them. Yeah baby, FIAT is where the action is!!! Anybody got any Boggs bills for sale? I'll pay you private fiat tokens for them. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [E

[e-gold-list] Re: What is TGC Share?

2003-10-28 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ld... But of course we know there is NO "gold base" to TGC shares. The shares merely have a going price that is stated in gold. And very few people are going to accept TGC shares directly in trade for goods and services. No investment instrument is going to be as liquid as money its

[e-gold-list] Re: What is TGC Share?

2003-10-27 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
appiness, love, fun, health, well-being -- things which are facilitated by gold, not embodied in it. -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK)

[e-gold-list] Re: Casino Technology/Algorithms

2003-10-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
f shoes without the shuffle every hand to entice those that think they have some "strategy". Yes, it is a feature and that's exactly what they do. But what I'm really interested in is figuring out how to program digital slot machines. Card games are simple. Fascinating asserti

[e-gold-list] TGC IPO Now Clear!

2003-10-24 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
The TGC IPO shares are now all sold. The secondary market is wide open now. https://www.dbourse.com/guests/ -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard

[e-gold-list] Re: A Free Zone in Alabama

2003-10-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ree Zone would accept payment of invoices in e-gold. Of course, what they use as money is entirely their business, but one might expect that the kind of people setting up shop in such a Free Zone might be a bit more attuned and amenable to better monetary options. -- Patrick --- You are current

[e-gold-list] Re: question on coins

2003-10-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
been spent!?). The only reason you don't see 40 year old dimes and quarters is that those were made of silver and therefore nobody is foolish enough to spend them anymore. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [

[e-gold-list] Re: Goldbarter Post

2003-10-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 04:41 AM, Phil Watson wrote: For the cigar aficionados in the group... I have posted a box of Cuban cigars - Montecristo #2 on goldbarter ellsmoke Cool! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a

[e-gold-list] The Nature of Value

2003-10-17 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
A good essay on the nature of economic value. http://mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=1349 Here are some excerpts: By Gene Callahan [Posted October 17, 2003] Somewhat ironically, it was one of the greatest philosophers who has ever lived, Aristotle, who was perhaps most responsible for steerin

[e-gold-list] Re: Debit Cards

2003-10-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ith e-bullion costs only the small $0.25 spend fee. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and sho

[e-gold-list] Economic Incentives

2003-10-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 01:59 AM, Khurram Khan wrote: ... I know I'm about to get a swarm of emails saying "You are F***ing wrong" but oh-well. Oh and by the way Khurram, you are not only wrong, you are Fudging wrong! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Economic Incentives

2003-10-15 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
s the best policy. Central planning? It's bad enough when pointy-haired bosses do it, but by bureaucrats?!! The horror ... the horror. -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: Income tax

2003-10-14 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ll the places people most want to go. As far as I can tell, taxes are a terribly inefficient and morally objectionable blunt instrument for getting things done. There are far better ways of doing things. -- Patrick http://fexl.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTE

[e-gold-list] RE: retailing the Moon

2003-10-13 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
't that the way it's supposed to work, Jim? Free Luna! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web a

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-12 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 02:18 PM, FileMatrix wrote: But in the United States, the thugs outlawed redeeming currency for gold. Patrick, why is this "redeeming" word so important? Can't you just say you *exchange* paper money for gold on the free market? ... I understand w

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
be possible even in principle? Specifically, if you had a gold certificate you knew would become unredeemable at a specific time, would you really hold onto it past that time? Wouldn't you go ahead and redeem it for gold? And wouldn't the threat of imprisonment be just about the

[e-gold-list] Re: Islamic banking

2003-10-11 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
uggestions, like CEOs should only make this much, pro basketball players shouldn't make so much, people mopping floors must make at least this much. Trying to make the world a better place is exactly what's making it such a tedious and nasty place. -- Patrick --- You are currently subsc

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-10 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
selves, are evolving toward more trade in hard money and less in fiat tokens. This works to erode the utility of fiat tokens, though imperceptibly at first. But if the physics are just right, this effect could easily compound far beyond anybody's ability to predict at this point. -- Patrick ---

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-10 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
as an individual who advocates or participates in the initiation of force against others. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-go

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
af of tightly wound bamboo strips. Any questions? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shop

[e-gold-list] Re: paypal to e-gold service

2003-10-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
itous system it is. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-09 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 03:01 AM, Robert B.Z. wrote: I actually enjoy the objections of both Patrick and Frank because they are contructive and make sense. Here we go: Patrick, if you lend someone a piece of gold and get the piece bank plus a smaller one, you won't be hauled to p

[e-gold-list] Re: The Myth of Insufficient Gold

2003-10-08 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
to chips a month later? What's the deal here? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shop

[e-gold-list] Re: The impressive progress of the Caliphate

2003-10-08 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ut 40 years recently. Between these grim and ideal scenarios there are many degrees of freedom, and some of us are opting for more freedom. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Se

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 01:40 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 12:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0400, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: It is also precisely why the US government will never allow the payment of taxes in gold, and why in the 1930's they banned businesses from writing contracts denominated in

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
en taxes are paid in gold I may no longer object to fiat paper but I may still object to the taxes. We can cross that bridge when we get to it. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
s me of another important point. Businesses can always trade in commercial paper when they find gold settlement inconvenient. Commercial paper is, after all, a good and faithful promise to deliver specific goods at a future date. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAI

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-05 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
what you can accomplish with slave labor if you keep the slaves fed and entertained! Without this crucial economic motor, we wouldn't have such wonders of the world as Amtrak, Social Security, and government schools! -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAI

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
s periodic tribute to be paid only in those certificates, he has earned a public display at the end of a rope. Such people are no different in principle from the thugs portrayed in Martin Scorsese's movie "Gangs of New York," though Daniel Day Lewis' character is far more admirable t

[e-gold-list] Re: units

2003-10-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ch specify only a quantity and a unit of mass. Second, I also agree that nitpicky fractional amounts with lots of zeroes like 0.008 are inconvenient. It is common to use 'mg' to represent a milligram (of gold). The price of an apple in your scenario would be 8mg -- a nice whole num

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
n the world, and in the United States, to finance much more business than is being done at present, provided good and faithful promises to pay gold (or its equivalent) can again be established. ..." -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubs

[e-gold-list] Re: Great Photos of both Gold and Silver US certs up to 1957

2003-10-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 04:33 PM, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: conversion ratio of about $19.39 per ounce, slightly less than the $20 per ounce figure you ordinarily hear about. Perhaps the balance would represent some exchange fee built into the system? It is an interesting point. I do

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
d tax compliance, and the only avenue of escape for government will be high levels of monetary inflation. Even if Alan Greenspan lives forever I don't think he could stop it. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [

[e-gold-list] Re: Great Photos of both Gold and Silver US certs up to 1957

2003-10-02 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
s. It is explicitly defined as 24.75 grains. Tonight when I get back home I'm going to look in my 1935 original copy of Robeson's "Monetary Mischief" because I vaguely recall him saying something about this explicitly. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-l

[e-gold-list] Re: Great Photos of both Gold and Silver US certs up to 1957

2003-10-01 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
there are 480 grains to a troy ounce, the Eagle actually contains just over half an ounce of pure gold -- 0.515625 oz to be exact. That a conversion ratio of about $19.39 per ounce, slightly less than the $20 per ounce figure you ordinarily hear about. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscrib

[e-gold-list] Re: question about units

2003-10-01 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
am and 'ng' for nanogram. I tend to view micropayments as literally more trouble than they are worth, though others seem to have found economically viable applications for them. -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank em

[e-gold-list] Re: physical tokens

2003-09-30 Thread Patrick
Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, but when it comes to physical transfers, I still think gold and silver coins are a good idea. You can easily carry enough gold to buy a new BMW. Patrick This of course would only work for a limited number of people at the current time, as it would require som

[e-gold-list] Re: The sky is crowded?!

2003-09-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
"Kinko" because of his curly, reddish hair. http://www.kinkos.com/about_us/history.php -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing yo

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-09-22 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
ts will be conducted in gold. Finally, with establishment of the Bank of International Gold Settlements in Kuala Lumpur next year Malaysia strongly urges her trading partners to follow her examples. I wonder if we'll get invaded sometime soonish? -- Patrick --- You are currently subscribed to

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