[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-04 Thread SnowDog
Hey Eric! Welcome to the argument from hell! :) > What we're seeing is an itemized > > list of the Assets of E-Gold LTD, and their Liabilities. No matter how you > > look at it, they have MORE assets than liabilities. > (end snip) E-Gold LTD has a liability to their customers for the e-gold in

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-04 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >(JP: Please at least read the end of this email. In spite of my initial > >argument, I believe I concede something that has been a real burr on your > >saddle.) > > Patrick, this is another classic Problem WIth Internet Discussions > exactly as I mentioned! It's no

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-04 Thread The Gaithman
anation as to why this statement makes sense thought contradicting itself??? Eric - Original Message - From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.c

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-04 Thread SnowDog
> *** CONCESSION > > You know, it seems like the Trust could easily avoid this whole issue by > simply holding these "other" liabilities IN E-GOLD ACCOUNTS. Just take the > 19,106.21 gg and divvy it up into some new accounts. Boom! Assets = > Liabilities to e-gold account holders. But you

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-04 Thread jpm
>(JP: Please at least read the end of this email. In spite of my initial >argument, I believe I concede something that has been a real burr on your >saddle.) Patrick, this is another classic Problem WIth Internet Discussions exactly as I mentioned! >True, but the Agreement also says (3.1.2)

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-04 Thread jpm
>> Craig dude - WHAT is it a balance sheet of? > >> the e-gold SP Trust? e-gold Ltd? GSR? ominpay? > >E-Gold LTD! > >They Trust just stores the gold. I don't think they have a balance sheet. Sure it does man, we now know for a fact that there's one "line item" unexplained. The SPTrust 'owe

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
(JP: Please at least read the end of this email. In spite of my initial argument, I believe I concede something that has been a real burr on your saddle.) From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Title is held by The e-gold Bullion Reserve Special Purpose Trust > that exists for the *express* purpose of h

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread SnowDog
> I wouldn't be so sure, Craig. The Examiner page really seems to be saying > this: > > Assets of E-Gold SP Trust:1,952,954.93 > Liabilities of E-Gold SP Trust: 1,933,848.72 > > Therefore, any balance sheet that includes these numbers would have to be > the balance sheet of E-Gold SP Tr

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Craig dude - WHAT is it a balance sheet of? > > > the e-gold SP Trust? e-gold Ltd? GSR? ominpay? > > E-Gold LTD! I wouldn't be so sure, Craig. The Examiner page really seems to be saying this: Assets of E-Gold SP Trust:1,952,954.93 Liabilitie

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread SnowDog
> It's utterly inconceivable they would take that account "offbooks" It's NOT off-books. It's an asset! It cannot be listed as a liability of E-Gold LTD. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gol

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread SnowDog
> Craig dude - WHAT is it a balance sheet of? > the e-gold SP Trust? e-gold Ltd? GSR? ominpay? E-Gold LTD! They Trust just stores the gold. I don't think they have a balance sheet. E-Gold OWES their customers the gold they have listed as assets. Their liabilities are less than their assets.

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >One might consider such a practice immoral simply because it > >introduces the possibility of error and the appearance of impropriety. > > PC, the idea that you can slush funds around in non-segregated > accounts. ... A corporation can't get away with it. JP: All

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: "SnowDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If we were to do it the GoldMoney way, then there would be NO > liabilities listed for E-Gold LTD, and the balance sheet would be only ONE > sheet, indicating the total amount of gold in the system. There would be NO > liability column. Interesting that you

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Oh yeah, one more thing. I don't give a rat's ass if there's an "extra" > >kilo of gold in account 808081. It doesn't hurt my 1mdc account one bit. > >All you have to do is ACCOUNT FOR IT. > > > Right! > > i.e., on the web page somewhere, it would have a five word n

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > NOWHERE ON THAT PAGE does it assert that that table "is a balance sheet" Technically you're right: a balance sheet is something showing Assets = Liability + Equity. I have been ASSUMING that they have listed ALL the liability of the trust, and therefore the differen

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mother Mary .. think of what you're saying. It would be like if you > were looking through the 1mdcGrams situation, PC, and you found an > "extra" kilo of gold in account 808081. And I was like "oh yeah! > that's mine! it's for this car I'm buying, dude!" :) Oh yea

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > PC! > > You're saying that e-gold Ltd ... would hold one of their assets ... > IN THE E-GOLD SPECIAL PURPOSE TRUST?!?!? All I'm asserting with confidence is that SOMEBODY has this balance sheet: Assets: 1,952,954.93 Liabilities: 1,933,849.01 Equity:

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (Just again as an aside, you guys are off on these mind-boggling > tangents, if I had to GUESS the reason for the discrepancy, a > spectacularly more normal, easy-going guess, would be something like > "GSR load up a few extra bars in there to save time." But that is

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread jpm
Jim my friend! This is utter speculation? Do You Know why there is a discrepancy between te two figures? I believe the answer is no ... but clear that up for me! (Just in an "aside" sense... >There is one e-gold Bullion Special Purpose Trust. It holds >a bunch of gold in allocated storage

[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] gold assets

2002-06-03 Thread SnowDog
> Are we violating the Copernican Principle by supposing > that there are special accounts in the e-gold system which > have non-liability status? I don't think so. I think it > is obvious that there have to be accounts which have > special status: e-gold, Ltd., is not rich, but it does have > a