[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread Craig Spencer
Claude, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: It most certainly does matter. If the major shareholders, officers, employees or assets of a GBC are in the US (or otherwise subject to the control of the US government) then they may be threatened or held hostage by the US government. As

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 9:16, Craig Spencer wrote: 1) If the corporation is closely held (any US shareholder having more than 10% of the stock; a so called Controled Foreign Corporation) it will not even acknowledge that the corporation exists. By US law they are NOT different persons. Are you

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread Craig Spencer
Claude, 1) If the corporation is closely held (any US shareholder having more than 10% of the stock; a so called Controled Foreign Corporation) it will not even acknowledge that the corporation exists. By US law they are NOT different persons. Are you sure about that? Can you point

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 12:09, Craig Spencer wrote: Yes. Altho the detailed law**S** and their effects are MUCH more complicated (of course!) and intellectually perverted than my brief reference indicates. You can find some information and legal references here.

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread Craig Spencer
Claude, But assuming you are right, I am sure you will admit that if only the shareholders and/or officers are in the USA when everything else is outside the USD, the governement has a really hard task shutting down the operation. Them officers must be proven guilty of something. How I

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 13:12, Craig Spencer wrote: There are all sorts of ways (what the government is fond of calling enforcement tools) that ANYONE in the US can be targeted, jailed, bankrupted, have all their property stolen and generally have their life made a living hell without ANY legal

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread Julian Morrison
C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: But what can they do if the corporation is operating outside the country and has no asset in the country They will mumble about aiding tax evasion or construe the website as operating inside the USA. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as:

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 18:22, Julian Morrison wrote: They will mumble about aiding tax evasion Well...then explain why the MONEX, FIDELITRADE and other bullion dealers in the US have been selling gold for cash since they exist and have not been shut down... Why would a GBC issuer be? or

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread BigBooster
The de facto US Constitution consists of eight words: ANYTHING GOES... THAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH. Frederick Mann At 01:12 PM 07/21/2001 -0400,Craig Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are all sorts of ways (what the government is fond of calling enforcement tools) that ANYONE in the US can

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread Craig Spencer
Claude, I dopn't know to what extent this is all true? We certainly don't have these sort of thing in Canada (I hope). Canada is better in some ways, worse in others. Canada has lacked a Bill of Rights for most of its history and so has never had the established respect for individual

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-21 Thread Julian Morrison
C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: On 21 Jul 2001, at 18:22, Julian Morrison wrote: They will mumble about aiding tax evasion Well...then explain why the MONEX, FIDELITRADE and other bullion dealers in the US have been selling gold for cash since they exist and have not been shut

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread Gaithman
Ken, Great article! Your site has a refreshingly clean and crisp look to it as well. Nice job on the overhaul! Just for your info (and possibly to correct the information in your article) Gaithmans now proudly offers e-Bullion products (Gold Silver) at www.gaithmans.com Of special

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread The Snipper
I have written an in-depth article introducing e-Bullion. You can read it on the beta-site for the new version of The Gold Economy. While you're there, poke around the site a bit and let me know what you think. URL: http://www.goldbankone.com/article.php?sid=123mode=nestedorder=0 this

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread Michael Moore
I have written an in-depth article introducing e-Bullion. You can read it on the beta-site for the new version of The Gold Economy. While you'rethere, poke around the site a bit and let me know what you think. URL: http://www.goldbankone.co The Gold Economy site looks refreshing new

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 4:03, The Snipper wrote: Looks to me like Pecunix is going to be the only 'private' gold supplier available. Can you be more specific about what is not private in the other GBCs ? I think that you are seriously biased! It doesn't really matter if some shareholders of the

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread The Snipper
On 21 Jul 2001, at 4:03, The Snipper wrote: Looks to me like Pecunix is going to be the only 'private' gold supplier available. Can you be more specific about what is not private in the other GBCs ? I think that you are seriously biased! It doesn't really matter if some shareholders of

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread Craig Spencer
C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: It doesn't really matter if some shareholders of the GBC's issuers are in the USA or anywhere in the world. What counts is the corporate identity of the issuer, its corporate governance, its partners, and its product. It most certainly does matter. If the

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread Edwin Woudt
The Snipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you have pointed out the main weakness is that some or all of the key players in each company listed reside or have close connections in the US. Pecunix has other problems: they specifically aim the MLM/gaming/scam market (at least in the beginning),

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread The Snipper
Pecunix has other problems: they specifically aim the MLM/gaming/scam market (at least in the beginning), thereby introducing a higher risk of being shut down by the authorities. 1) They did not SPECIFICALLY target MLM/Gaming/Scam. MLM and Gaming are mentioned. nowhere do I see the word

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 1:02, Craig Spencer wrote: It most certainly does matter. If the major shareholders, officers, employees or assets of a GBC are in the US (or otherwise subject to the control of the US government) then they may be threatened or held hostage by the US government. As long

[e-gold-list] Re: e-Bullion Article

2001-07-20 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jul 2001, at 4:47, The Snipper wrote: As for the 'private' part, I was refering to private in the sense, free from US government intrusion. Don't take what I say out of context. My sentence was included as part of: OK. But then, Pecunix is not unique in that regard. GoldMoney

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2001-07-20 Thread jpm
I have written an in-depth article introducing e-Bullion. You can read it on the beta-site for the new version of The Gold Economy. While you're there, poke around the site a bit and let me know what you think. URL: http://www.goldbankone.com/article.php?sid=123mode=nestedorder=0 Ken Griffith