Re: How to select a distribution?

2000-10-21 Thread Eric Bohlman
Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As we get more complex situations, like those happening > in biology, and especially in the social sciences, it is > necessary to consider that models may have substantial > errors and still be "accepted", as one can only get some > understanding by using

Re: point biserial formula

2000-10-21 Thread Eric Bohlman
dennis roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 06:14 AM 10/21/00 +, Eric Bohlman wrote: >> >>1) It demonstrates that a correlation problem in which one variable is >>dichotomous is equivalent to a two-group mean-difference problem. > maybe you can make this point but, to a typical student ...

Re: correlation/regression and causation

2000-10-21 Thread dennis roberts
At 09:43 PM 10/21/00 -0400, Karl L. Wuensch wrote: >You all may find this hard to believe, but, in my experience, a large >proportion of social scientists have the delusion that if you conduct a >traditional two-group t-test, then you are qualified to make causal >inferences (that is, varianc

Re: .05 level of significance

2000-10-21 Thread dennis roberts
so, what does the multiplicative "law" in probability mean then? i was merely indicating ... since i have done this in classes ... that if you show to students ... a sequence of (using a coin flip as the exemplar) ... of heads ... in a row ... when it appears that they came about due to "random"

replication of "significant" results

2000-10-21 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
Michael said: > Unfortunately, I think that replication is probably one of the most overlooked issues in the discussion of hypothesis testing etc. Agreed. A related misconception is that a statistically "significant" result means that a replication attempt will likely produce statistically "sig

correlation/regression and causation

2000-10-21 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
Eric noted: "While I certainly agree that many textbooks convey the absolutely misleading impression that the "PBC" is some special form of measure, I think that the usual formula presented for it is pedagogically useful in a few ways (not that the typical textbook makes use of them):1) It demons

Re: .05 level of significance

2000-10-21 Thread Alan Mclean
Jerry Dallal wrote: > I have a note from Frank Anscombe in my files. It says, "Cardano. > See the bit from "De Vita Propria" at the head of Chap. 6 of FN > David's "Games, Gods, and Gambling (1962). That shows that the idea > of a test of significance, informally described, is very ancient." >

Re: .05 level of significance

2000-10-21 Thread Alan Mclean
Michael Granaas wrote: > Someone, I think it was on this thread, mentioned Abelson's book > "Statistics as Principled Argument". In this book Abelson argues that > individual studies simply provide pieces of evidence for or against a > particular hypothesis. It is the accumulation of the eviden

Re: .05 level of significance

2000-10-21 Thread Bill Jefferys
At 12:56 PM -0500 10/20/00, dennis roberts wrote: >randomly independent events have the p value being the multiplication of >each event's p value ... so ... p for getting a head in a good coin >is .5 ... 2 in a row = .25 ... etc. This is wrong. In general you cannot multiply the p-values fro

point biserial formula

2000-10-21 Thread dennis roberts
At 06:14 AM 10/21/00 +, Eric Bohlman wrote: > >1) It demonstrates that a correlation problem in which one variable is >dichotomous is equivalent to a two-group mean-difference problem. maybe you can make this point but, to a typical student ... i would say this equivalence would be lost > >2

Re: .05 level of significance

2000-10-21 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John W. Kulig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have been searching for some "psychological" data on the .05 issue - I >know it's out there but haven't found it yet. It went something like this: >Claim to a friend that you have a fair coin. But the coin is not fair.

Faq & libraries in VB?

2000-10-21 Thread Serge Bourque
Hello World, Where could I find the FAQ and some libraries of in VB? Thanks in advance, Gilles B.) = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at

Re: How to select a distribution?

2000-10-21 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Herman Rubin wrote: >> In article <8smcpv$41r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Choi, Young Sung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >I am a statistically poor researcher and have a statistical problem. >> >I have two candidate