Re: edstat-digest V2000 #510

2001-09-21 Thread Sandra CHANDLER
All the info is at http://www.m-ms.com/us/about/products/index.jsp for each of the different types of mm's. Just click the one in which you are interested. you wrote Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:36:43 -0400 From: Rob MacTurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: for students (biology et

Re: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-21 Thread Joe Galenko
The mean of a random sample of size 81 from a population of size 1 billion is going to be Normally distributed regardless of the distribution of the overall population (i.e., the 1 billion). Oftentimes the magic number of 30 is used to say that the mean will have a Normal distribution, although

samp. w or w/o replacement

2001-09-21 Thread Dennis Roberts
seems to me that if you are talking about, for example, generating a sampling distribution of means, ... then each and every SRS is assumed to be randomly and INDEPENDENTLY drawn from said population ... thus, sampling with replacement is assumed if not, each NEXT sample is not being drawn

Re: Free program to generate random samples

2001-09-21 Thread Jerry Dallal
Jon Cryer wrote: But it would be bad statistics to sample with replacement. Whew! saves me from having to learn about all that bootstrap stuff! :-) = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the

Re: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-21 Thread Gus Gassmann
Joe Galenko wrote: The mean of a random sample of size 81 from a population of size 1 billion is going to be Normally distributed regardless of the distribution of the overall population (i.e., the 1 billion). Oftentimes the magic number of 30 is used to say that the mean will have a Normal

Re: Free program to generate random samples

2001-09-21 Thread Jon Cryer
I wouldn't call bootstrapping sampling from a population. Would you? Jon Cryer At 06:03 PM 9/21/01 GMT, you wrote: Jon Cryer wrote: But it would be bad statistics to sample with replacement. Whew! saves me from having to learn about all that bootstrap stuff! :-)

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-21 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 06:14 PM 9/21/01 +, Jerry Dallal wrote: I wrote: Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors in bags of MMs? because I surely didn't, but perhaps I should. Since the % blues differ among plain and peanut (10 v 30, says WBW) there's probably a good

Re: Free program to generate random samples

2001-09-21 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 02:12 PM 9/21/01 -0500, Jon Cryer wrote: I wouldn't call bootstrapping sampling from a population. Would you? well, getting the first boot ... to do the strapping ... might be ... but, after that ... then REsampling from the first SAMPLE (boot) ... would be a better way to describe it

strapping boots

2001-09-21 Thread Dennis Roberts
At 02:12 PM 9/21/01 -0500, Jon Cryer wrote: I wouldn't call bootstrapping sampling from a population. Would you? Jon Cryer however, we should perhaps not make too lightly of this method ... if bootstrapping or resampling ... will produce accurate estimates of standard errors (for example) in

Re: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-21 Thread Gus Gassmann
Joe Galenko wrote: Just out of curiousity, I'd like to know what kind of population you could have such that a sample mean with N = 200 wouldn't be approximately Normally distributed. That would have to be a very, very strange distribution indeed. You can construct them easily as Bernoulli

Re: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-21 Thread Joe Galenko
Right, I meant to say _approximately_ Normal. If you're writing it down mathematically then the sample mean is only Normal if the larger population is also Normal. But in practice, nothing is ever exactly Normal anyway, so in that sense it's just a matter of when have you have enough to get a

Ask for help

2001-09-21 Thread ASGHAR AKBARI
Hi I have a problem in linear algebra that is; If T be a linear transformation matrix(squared matrix) and inv(T') be the inverse of transpose of T, is inv(T') a linear transformation matrix too??? Thanks for your help ASGHAR AKBARI

RE: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-21 Thread David Heiser
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Galenko Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what type of distribution on this sampling Just out of curiousity, I'd like to know what kind of population you

Re: definition of metric as a noun

2001-09-21 Thread Neville X. Elliven
Herman Rubin wrote: The OED cites the following use of metric as a noun: 1921 Proc. R. Soc. A. XCIX. 104 In the non-Euclidean geometry of Riemann, the metric is defined by certain quantities . . A good example of bad usage: *what* metric, *what* quantities? The reader should not be left

Re: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-21 Thread Jay Warner
Not to disagree with Randy Poe completely, but I think we can say something, especially if we make _some_ assumptions (mainly, that this comes from an intro class). @Home wrote: I am trying to solve a ? which basically gives the following facts: population of unknown number popu std dev of

survey about maps

2001-09-21 Thread umfrage gis
Dear newsgroup reader, within my thesis there is a survey about maps and users expectations. Please take part at http://www.domestic.at/uniwien Thanks in advance, Isabella Bayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Geography and Regional Research, Cartography and Geoinformation University of

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-09-21 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Jerry Dallal wrote: You can have them count the colors of candies in bags of MMs. The MM web site has the expected proportions published so they can do a ChiSquare test against those proportions. Does anybody really care about the proportions of different colors in bags of MMs?

Re: Free program to generate random samples

2001-09-21 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
@Home wrote: Is there any downloadable freeware that can generate let's say 2000 random samples of size n=100 from a population of 100 numbers. and Randy Poe responded: Um. A sample of 100 from a population of 100 is going to give you the entire population. Depends whether

Re: how to compare generated values with the specifieddistributionbasis

2001-09-21 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Rich Ulrich wrote: Robert waffles by saying 'most' purposes, so I have to find it easy to agree. When might you *not* treat a uniform, N=20 as normal? - perhaps when the R^2 is too high (above .90)? Anything involving extreme-value estimation, for a start.

Re: WTC 9-11 stats show paranormal connection

2001-09-21 Thread Tony T. Warnock
This would have been of more interest if it had been published in August. = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at

Re: Free program to generate random samples

2001-09-21 Thread Jon Cryer
But it would be bad statistics to sample with replacement. Jon Cryer At 08:35 AM 9/21/01 -0300, you wrote: >"@Home" wrote: >> > >> > Is there any downloadable freeware that can generate let's say 2000 random >> > samples of size n=100 from a population of 100 numbers. >> > >> >and Randy Poe

Re: Free program to generate random samples

2001-09-21 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
@Home wrote: Is there any downloadable freeware that can generate let's say 2000 random samples of size n=100 from a population of 100 numbers. and Randy Poe responded: Um. A sample of 100 from a population of 100 is going to give you the entire population. I replied: