Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-31 Thread Tony T. Warnock
The change in placement of accent marks is and example of change for change's sake. The old style will be around for many years. It's in every dictionary that I currently own (about 5 different and an online version.) The Mirriam Webster Second Edition dropped 400,000 entries going to the Third E

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-31 Thread Jerry Dallal
Rich Ulrich wrote: > I posted a question on alt.usage.english, > from a.u.e. > > so that stress marks were > most often placed after the vowels (as in the OED), > However, in the early 20th century, the IPA (International Phonetics > Association) invented a writing system in

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-30 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:38:45 GMT, Jerry Dallal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aniko wrote: > > > It is usual to put the stress > > mark ' in front of the accented syllable. > > and Rich has documented that, if not usual, it is not unusual. All > of my dictionaries put the stress mark after the a

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Petr Kuzmic
Paul Gorodyansky wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Petr Kuzmic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > is accent on it. Compare with Mr. Mendel_e_ev (the periodic man), whose > > name is pronounced with "...ev" because the accent is on the > > pen-ultimate syllable. > > No, because th

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Paul Gorodyansky
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Petr Kuzmic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ... > In contrast, most folks probably remember a name that had been in the > daily news a decade or so ago: GorbachEv pronounced "G[a]rba_chov_" in > Russian. Even NPR, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc., announcers were always > pr

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Jerry Dallal
Aniko wrote: > It is usual to put the stress > mark ' in front of the accented syllable. and Rich has documented that, if not usual, it is not unusual. All of my dictionaries put the stress mark after the accented syllable. I suspect this is the way it was always done until recently. Rich cites

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Bob Hayden
- Forwarded message from Alexander Tsyplakov - > Have any of you ever actually heard Dr. Kolmogorov or his parents pronounce > his name? If not, then you cannot really be sure of the proper way to > pronounce it. My name is fairly simple, yet I have heard at least 13 > variations on it

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Alexander Tsyplakov
Aniko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8t7bpp$iju$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8t7bpp$iju$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >> > >> I need help breaking "kalma" into three syllables?-) > >> > > > >The first one is silent. > > I don't understand your problem. The accent is on the _third_ syllable, > that is

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Alexander Tsyplakov
Mardo, John G [AMSTA-AR-QAW-P] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > Have any of you ever actually heard Dr. Kolmogorov or his parents pronounce > his name? If not, then you cannot really be sure of the proper way to > pronounce it. My name is fairly simple, yet I have heard at least 13 > vari

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-26 Thread Svetlana Staleuskaya
I am native russian speaker. so, Chebisev can be pronounced both _Che_bishev and Cheby_shov_. These both variants are used equally often. It is my final and ultimate answer. :)) Aniko ÐÉÛÅÔ × ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ <8t7bpp$iju$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... >>> >>> I need help breaking "kalma" into three syllables?

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Petr Kuzmic
Aniko wrote: ... > On a related topic: I have always wondered about the correct pronunciation > of Chebysev. > In Russia I heard it as Chebi_shov_, with the accent at the end. It all > reduces to the question of exact spelling in Russian: is the second vowel an > "e" or "umlaut e" (the one with

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:08:12 -0400, I wrote, asking, > > Do you really have *three* that are the old way? (Names/Dates?) > I have not seen a survey of dictionaries, but the (few) ones that I > have used in recent years have been consistent, the times I have > noticed, in using a pre-syllable

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:26:28 -0600, "Tony T. Warnock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aniko wrote: > > > > > I don't understand your problem. The accent is on the _third_ syllable, > > that is on the first "o" in "Kalma_go_rov". It is usual to put the stress > > mark ' in front of the accented syl

RE: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Richard M. Barton
4026 US Army TACOM/ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ > -Original Message- > From: Tony T. Warnock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov > > > Aniko wrote: > > &

RE: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Mardo, John G [AMSTA-AR-QAW-P]
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov > > > Aniko wrote: > > > > > I don't understand your problem. The accent is on the > _third_ syllable, > > that is

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Aniko
>> >> I need help breaking "kalma" into three syllables?-) >> > >The first one is silent. I don't understand your problem. The accent is on the _third_ syllable, that is on the first "o" in "Kalma_go_rov". It is usual to put the stress mark ' in front of the accented syllable. On a related topi

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Tony T. Warnock
Aniko wrote: > > I don't understand your problem. The accent is on the _third_ syllable, > that is on the first "o" in "Kalma_go_rov". It is usual to put the stress > mark ' in front of the accented syllable. It is? I have three dictionaries in the office and all put the stress mark after the

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Jerry Dallal
Bob Hayden wrote: > > - Forwarded message from ?? - > > on the third syllable > [kalma' gorov] > > - End of forwarded message from ?? - > > I need help breaking "kalma" into three syllables?-) > The first one is silent.

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Bob Hayden
- Forwarded message from ?? - on the third syllable [kalma' gorov] - End of forwarded message from ?? - I need help breaking "kalma" into three syllables?-) _ | |Robert W. Hayden | | Work: Departm

Re: How to pronounce Kolmogorov

2000-10-25 Thread Ñâåòëàíà Ñòàëåâñêàÿ
on the third syllable [kalma'gorov] Hans Kiesl ïèøåò â ñîîáùåíèè <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... >This might be a silly question for most of you, but I'd like to know how >to pronounce "Kolmogorov" correctly. > >Is the stress on the second or on the third syllable? > >Thanks, > >Hans Kiesl ==