Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Limit output power with KPA3?

2009-05-15 Thread chen dave
My SS AMP need 30~45w to get 1200w or so, I never try to see what will happen if I set the input power to 100w. Even the AMP have some room for that(I think) -- it use 16*MRF150. By the way, ALC cable not used. So maybe it is a good idea to add this function -- I hope it will be limit

Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA3 Fan Temp settings

2009-05-15 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Jim Miller KG0KP wrote: 37C (the fan turn-on temp What is the approximate temp for speedup to the faster speeds? You are assuming that they are using a simple one term, proportional, controller. You are probably right, but modern central heating controllers are two term (they include an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-15 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
David Wilburn wrote: The fail temperature of the PA's is going to be well known and documented. Then a safety factor is added. But I seem to recall that Things aren't as simple as that. Mean time between failure tends to have an inverse exponential relationship with temperature, so any

[Elecraft] Elecraft] K3 Hardly any Output

2009-05-15 Thread Tom (HB9DOD)
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[Elecraft] K3 Heat, Cooling, Noise, RFI

2009-05-15 Thread turnbull
I suppose we all like to improve what we have. This is a road to progrsss The folks at Elecraft have proven themselves to be first class engineers. They must have done a worst case design and thermal analysis. I would put some faith in them. We can of course install a squirrel cage

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread Brendan Minish
I think there are a few points that still need to be considered here How hot are the hot spots? 10 to 20 degrees C above ambient or 50+ degrees above ambient temp. 10 to 20 degrees above ambient temp is nothing to worry about. The dominant heat source is the voltage regulators, adding the Sub

[Elecraft] K2 receiver

2009-05-15 Thread John Chance-Read
I am trying to find a fault in the receiver (I've lost 3 dB of signal) i.e. 50uV in only give a reading of 6 on the meter. So far no luck but I've now stripped off the SSB / 100W / 160 m / Dig Filter accessories to make it easier to find. I've linked W1, W2, and W3 but can some one advise me on

[Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-15 Thread David Wilburn
A friend that went to Dayton this year stopped by the Elecraft booth. Unfortunately, beyond the K3, he is not familiar with Elecraft, and cell service inside is not good. But I did get a text saying they had these specification sheets out. (New) Computing Watt Meter Active Filter Amp 41 dB

[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: May 15 - June 14, 2009

2009-05-15 Thread Ken Newman
~ N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR May 15 - June 14, 2009 ~ Dayton Hamvention (QRP Event - FDIM) May 15-17 Info: http://www.hamvention.org/

[Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-15 Thread Jerry Flanders
You guys at Dayton - is there hamfest promo pricing on the K3 at Dayton? Jerry W4UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-15 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
WHAT heat problem? Currently there are over a hundred K3's I know about from all over the serial number range. NO burnups, NO burnt hands. Includes one who got up and left it on TUNE which resulted in NO burned up K3. I'm still asking about what happened to the dummy load though. NO KPA3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 15 May 2009 10:53:10 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote: What heat problem? No heat problem. Guy said it well. I'm a member of the Northern California Contest Club, one of the largest. Our members probably own at least 100 K3s. I own two. My neighbor K6XX owns four, and is a very sharp

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-15 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Fri, 15 May 2009, Jim Brown wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009 10:53:10 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote: What heat problem? No heat problem. W0YK is one of our more agressive members, a world champion RTTY contester, and an early beta tester. His response to this thread, before he hurried off

Re: [Elecraft] Amp choices for QRP K3?

2009-05-15 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I just checked - my ALS-600 runs 80-100 watts out with 10 watts drive from my K3, though I normally run it at more like 500 watts output with about 70 watts drive. There is a 35 ohm resistor in series with the ALS-600 input that can probably be reduced to give you more output power. I have

Re: [Elecraft] Amp choices for QRP K3?

2009-05-15 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I read your article Phil. WELL DONE! I am considering the mod to my ALS-600 and my Dentron Clipperton-L as well. Seems it would work for both. I would be interested in your kits. The etched circuit board seems more elegant than the perfboard. A question! How is the relay SWR on 6 meters.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heat

2009-05-15 Thread Rich
I also have never noticed a problem due to heat buildup in the K3. A good cup of coffee is about 140 degrees F or 60 degrees C - well below the failure point and within the normal operating limits of most solid state devices. That temperature would leave your fingers red if you placed them on an

Re: [Elecraft] Amp choices for QRP K3?

2009-05-15 Thread K2ZR
Is anyone using the ALS-600 with their K2/QRP? Dick, K2ZR PS: Phil ( AS5X ) TU for the information on the ALS-600 and your K3 Dick Stein wrote: Is anyone using the ALS-600 with their K2/QRP? Dick, K2ZR PS: Phil ( AS5X ) TU for the information on the ALS-600 and your K3 Phil Debbie Salas

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread drewko
Be aware that roaming outside of the ham bands can cause them to get mapped out. Then you have to go back into Config Band Map to reset them to IN. This happens to me frequently. 73, Drew AF2Z On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Bill NZ0T wrote: All of a sudden tonight I can't get to

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread Phil LaMarche
That has happened to me many times. I have N4PY and Lp-Pan, so it's a matter of clicking on the band button in those programs and everything comes back. Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. www.instantgourmetspices.com www.w9dvm.com 800-395-7795 pin 02 727-944-3226 FAX

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread drewko
On Fri, 15 May 2009 02:58:42 +, Barry VK2BJ wrote: I have already gone down the road of cutting six vertical slots in the right hand side panel to assist with air flow. I would sooner mount a peltier junction on the side panel. But even sooner than that I would just crank up the A/C...

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread Mel Farrer
An old thought.  When trying to get heat out, one usually gets dirt, bugs, etc. in.  I like cranking up the AC and leave well enough alone.  Of course there is always the freon bath, not. Mel, K6KBE --- On Fri, 5/15/09, drewko drew...@verizon.net wrote: From: drewko drew...@verizon.net

Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-15 Thread Tom Hammond
Nope, but if you order at Dayton, for (slightly) delivery, there's no STATE TAX (OR shipping, I think). 73, Tom N0SS At 09:51 AM 5/15/2009, you wrote: You guys at Dayton - is there hamfest promo pricing on the K3 at Dayton? Jerry W4UK

Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-15 Thread Adam Koczarski
I got in queue for the 2m option. No special pricing though, (I think). Also heard Lyle talk about the K3 as an SDR. Basically what I heard at the presentation he gave at his house last year. Prior to Lyle's presentation there was a presentation about the Flex. Differing philosophies were

Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-15 Thread David Christ
Please summarize the differences in philosophy that you noticed. David K0LUM Adam Koczarski wrote Also heard Lyle talk about the K3 as an SDR. Basically what I heard at the presentation he gave at his house last year. Prior to Lyle's presentation there was a presentation about the Flex.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread David Cutter
That should not happen, that's not user-friendly at all. I trust this will be addressed at a firmware update. David G3UNA Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem. Be aware that roaming outside of the ham bands can cause them to get mapped out. Then you have to go

Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-15 Thread Ed, W9EJB
Just returned home from Dayton. The only new K3 developments as reported by Wayne are the new W2 wattmeter (~$240) and the 2 meter add on for the K3 (K144XV ~$300). Eric indicated that the K144XV should be available by August. It will require an upgrade (actually a trade out) of the KXV3 for

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread David Gilbert
Address what? Glitchy 3rd party rig control software? I can spin the VFO knob on my K3 through the entire HF spectrum without having it un-map any band. Dave AB7E David Cutter wrote: That should not happen, that's not user-friendly at all. I trust this will be addressed at a

[Elecraft] K3 Weird BS

2009-05-15 Thread rfenabled
(Snip) Address what? Glitchy 3rd party rig control software? I can spin the VFO knob on my K3 through the entire HF spectrum without having it un-map any band. Dave AB7E Dave, Same here too! I regularly go for a wander between 80 and 20m bands just to see what's making noise and I

Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-15 Thread David Wilburn
Great stuff. Thanks for the update. I wonder if the display is at a specific size and resolution, so by integrating the screen it is a known element. I had kinda hoped it would be a box that would plug into the K3, and then plug into an available screen. You could put it on a 44 LCD, or

[Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread K2ZLS
Hi Barry, Thank you for your interest. I have received many replies both good and bad. Bad, because many think I have some kind of heating PROBLEM with the K3. Not so. My only intent is to try lower the FP temp like you. Here's what I found. Your slots are a GOOD start but not

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread David Lankshear
I've rediscovered the pleasures of SWLing again and have spent much time snooping around the bands, particularly the broadcast bands. There have been no band mapping problems here and no rig control software is in use as I'm into DIY HI! But seriously, no problems at all encountered on v3.14

Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-15 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
Ed, W9EJB wrote: Just returned home from Dayton. The only new K3 developments as reported by Wayne are the new W2 wattmeter (~$240) and the 2 meter add on for the K3 (K144XV ~$300). I noted (may not be 100% accurate, but should be close): $229.95 for the W2 kit or $289.95 for

Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-15 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Was any mention made of when these items (maybe even at the Dayton price) would be available for web site ordering? 73, doug Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:41:56 -0700 From: Iain MacDonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org Ed, W9EJB wrote: Just returned home from Dayton. The only new K3

Re: [Elecraft] Price promo on K3 at Dayton?

2009-05-15 Thread David Wilburn
http://n2.nabble.com/K3-or-SDR-5000--td457400.html http://n2.nabble.com/SDR---K3---and-GUI-Interface-td447927.html You can do all kinds of flexible searches here; http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-f365791.html Flexible, he he, too funny, I made a punny. Dave Wilburn NM4M David Christ wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - strange problem

2009-05-15 Thread Robert Mccormack
Hi all, When K3 #321 is switched off, it automatically switches on again. No error message, and all other functions seem normal. Of course it stays off when the power supply is removed. Alongside it, K3 #320 (both share the same 13.5v supply) operates as normal... Anyone on the list

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - strange problem

2009-05-15 Thread Mark Bayern
Anyone on the list experience this problem before? Yep. Not me, but here is the description of the KPA3 12V sense mod on the Elecraft website: This modification adds a diode to the KPA3 12V sense circuit to hold the voltage to no more than 0.6V when the K3 is turned off. Without it, some K3s

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread Kr01a
I tune out of band on a regular basis for SWLing and have no such problem. If you're using rig control software, I suggest you look in that area. 73, Mac, KR0I **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!

Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance

2009-05-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
By Tuesday afternoon (or possibly earlier), after we recover from our Dayton marathon. :-) 73, Eric _..._ -Original Message- From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 fa...@panix.com Date: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:51 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dayton - Initial Reconnaissance To:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Tony, We've looked at the fp temp range during the design, testing and now during our ongoing relaibility testing of the K3. There is nothing out of range here and we are very comfortable with it. It is not a reliability issue at these temps, and it certainly not causing any operational

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Tony, We've looked at the fp temp range during the design, testing and now during our ongoing relaibility testing of the K3. There is nothing out of range here and we are very comfortable with it. It is not a reliability issue at these temps, and it certainly not causing any operational

[Elecraft] K2 building question

2009-05-15 Thread Daniel Kreithen
Hi - I'm in the process of building my K2. I've completed the control board, and am performing the resistance checks as recommended in the manual. All check out OK except for the test for pins 29 and 30 of U6 (the dash and dot/ptt pins). The resistance values as stated in the manual are

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread Joe Planisky
Good job, Drew! I repeated your steps and confirm the same result: 40m is mapped out. Now that it's repeatable it can be fixed. (BTW, I'm running FW 3.11) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On May 15, 2009, at 6:54 PM, drewko wrote: Try the following. Assuming all your ham bands are mapped IN, except

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread NZ0T
I don't use rig control software. I do use ACLog to log and downloaded and starting using K3_EZ the other day and that may be what caused the problem. At least now I know what is happening and can resolve any future problems. 73, Bill, NZ0T I tune out of band on a regular basis for SWLing and

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Help! Wierd bandswitching problem.

2009-05-15 Thread drewko
Try the following. Assuming all your ham bands are mapped IN, except 5.0 MHz: Starting somewhere on the 40m CW band... FREQ-ENT 5.990 ENTER Move VFO to somewhere above 6.000 BAND-UP You end up on 30m (not in the 40m ham band as you would expect). Go to CONFIG BND MAP and use BAND-DOWN

[Elecraft] K3 Ref connector

2009-05-15 Thread Mike Short
What is the connector for, and can I plug a 10MHz reference to it? Mike Short AI4NS ai...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K2 building question

2009-05-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dan, In this particular case, a little high is not a problem - low might be problematic. Normally if a single value is listed for a resistance check, allow a +/- 10% tolerance, but when a range is listed, normally the readings you obtain should fall within the listed range. 73, Don W3FPR

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Ref connector

2009-05-15 Thread chen dave
Not so simple, at least you need change the TCXO to volt-controllable one. By the way, I ordered my 0.5ppm TCXO on local market, 25USD, works great, After that, K3 TX freqency err not over +-2HZ from 10C to 30C on 28MHz. So I think K3 is good enough for normal use. I have a GPS based 10MHz

[Elecraft] Tr: K3 Ref connector

2009-05-15 Thread Dave G4AON
The REF input connector is for an external reference that was mentioned way back, just like synchronous AM and TCXO additional temperature compensation to 0.5 ppm, it seems to be getting pushed back by new add-ons such as the internal 2m transverter card. Elecraft do not publish a K3 project plan

Re: [Elecraft] K3 COOLING VENTS

2009-05-15 Thread Brendan Minish
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 19:13 -0400, K2ZLS wrote: The other driving factor here, that NOBODY seems to take seriously, is the heating effect on the computer chips and DSP processor. They could use heat sinks, but space limitations may be a problem. My background is computers and I know