[Elecraft] Value of K2 field test unit

2013-08-27 Thread Jim Apple
I'm about to put serial number 0069 up for sale but I'm having a hard time getting a sense of a fair value for it. It has the auto tuner and battery, but is has not been used in 6 years so the battery probably needs replaced, no ssb module. And I have an unbuilt DSP option that will go with it,.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-27 Thread Bill
Regarding the hump monster appearing on the screen of the P3: I had this to a severe degree with my P3 when I first put it into service. Here are the results of my quick tests: 1. humps vanish when the P3 has no patch cord attached to it. 2. using a different BNC patch cord from the P3 to the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Hisashi, The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3 manual on page 33. 73, Mike K2MK Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hello Hisashi, The P3/SVGA terminal mode which allows you to display decoded CW/RTTY/PSK31 text on an external monitor uses the decoder built in to the K3. If you are missing characters on the SVGA display, first make sure that the K3 is correctly configured to decode the correct mode.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Hisashi, The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It just displays the decoding done by the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-27 Thread Tom
Huh, I just noticed I have them too. So, given that regular cables don't always remove these, how does one build a mil-spec bnc cable? Tom Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-27, at 9:43 AM, Bill b...@w2blc.net wrote: Regarding the hump monster appearing on the screen of the P3: I had this to a

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Paul, I think Hisashi is describing while using RTTY what I have been talking about while using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission. They show on the monitor, but not on the K3 and are not being sent. (I'm

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Sorry, I guess my frustration is with the limited documentation on the P3 SVGA. Twice I thought it was defective but it wasn't. So far I've found that the SVGA bias needs to be turned way down from the default of 9.9 to 1.2-1.5, and that I'm losing simple serial data from the K3 to the P3 SVGA

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a 'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote: Paul, I think Hisashi is describing while

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Hisashi, I'd like to know if you experience the dropped characters on receive, or during transmit? You show it as a RTTY decode question, but is that specific? Read my previous post carefully. I am also describing a similar thing during transmit. Paul has been working on it. I'd like

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/27/2013 9:06 AM, Tom wrote: how does one build a mil-spec bnc cable? What's apparently causing the problem is poor quality of the coax, or the connectors, or the termination of those connectors by the third-party vendor. This is a VERY old problem -- my first P3, a fairly early serial

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Hisashi, Sorry about these posts getting out of order. Something in my email client changed the 'from' address and my post was rejected. Will fix that. Okay, your problem is during receive. That is different from what I have been reporting, but perhaps I should look for it during receive,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

2013-08-27 Thread Randy Hall
Hi How about a K3 box that has 50/144/432 on the main board and slots that would take 29 MHz, 70 MHz, 220 MHz, 1.296 MHz and other band sub-modules? Randy On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Don Putnick don.n...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm sure Ron AC7AC's ideas were somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but

[Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread AD6XY
Please can we have an option to disable break in. I nearly killed my microwave transverter tonight because of break in when I pressed the memory key button by mistake. CW QSK is too fast for and defeats the sequencing of the transverter. Mike -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] K2 observation

2013-08-27 Thread Vern%2C AA7VW%40comcast.net
Thank you Don and Gary for the assistance you gave. I will try the flux dispenser first. Of course with the imtermitte nt nature of my problem I realize that I may never know for sure if I corrected it. Again tha nk you.  Vern __

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Fausto Coletti
Hi Mike, push for two second the VOX button (left side of band switch) will disable break in. Vy 73, Fausto IK4NMF - Original Message - From: AD6XY willis...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, You may want to look into using TX INH on the K3 ACC connector - it does exactly that, waits for a signal from the sequencer that TX is now OK. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/27/2013 4:08 PM, AD6XY wrote: Please can we have an option to disable break in. I nearly killed my microwave transverter

Re: [Elecraft] Value of K2 field test unit

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, If a Field Test K2 is upgraded with all the A to B mods, new firmware and the IF filter crystals upgraded, its performance will be equal to those kits currently being shipped. The parts for that kind of full upgrade will be in the vicinity of $125, so you need to downgrade the price from

Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dick and Hashshi, I would suggest removing the serial cable going to the PC as a test. That will assure nothing other than the K3 to P3SVGA is flowing over the two serial connections. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/27/2013 2:54 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: Hisashi, Sorry about these posts getting out of

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
AD6XY == AD6XY willis...@gmail.com writes: AD6XY Please can we have an option to disable break in. I nearly killed my AD6XY microwave transverter tonight because of break in when I pressed the memory AD6XY key button by mistake. CW QSK is too fast for and defeats the sequencing

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-27 Thread Tom
So a Pasterack bnc male to bnc male using 24 of RG58 is 23.90 + shipping Not so bad if it fixes the problem. Is it supposed to be rg58? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-27, at 12:31 PM, George Danner gdan...@windstream.net wrote: Tom, Try Pasternack or Bracke. I've used their patch

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/27/2013 1:51 PM, Tom wrote: The full shield coax that used a foil were (are) especially prone to ground loops by not having a good connection at both connectors. While I agree with your analysis that the problem was a bad shield connection to a crummy cable, there's a bit more to

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread AD6XY
I wasn't aware of that feature - but all I can get is FULL or SEMI, no Off. Turning off VOX to PTT still causes VOX to operate with the key - which is surely a bug? -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread AD6XY
Hi Don, That doesn't work too well because the PTT signal still bounces up and down setting off all the relays. My IC735 used to have a VOX delay which you could set to something long to prevent that - but unless I missed a menu I can't seem to find where you set the CW VOX hang time. Mike --

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:41 PM, AD6XY willis...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't aware of that feature - but all I can get is FULL or SEMI, no Off. Turning off VOX to PTT still causes VOX to operate with the key - which is surely a bug? Are you saying that with VOX off, and no external source of

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread AD6XY
Are you saying that with VOX off, and no external source of PTT, your K3 is going into transmit when you operate your key? i.e. you see the red TX LED light? Yes to the first, no to the second. To explain - in CW mode the K3 sends a PTT signal on the keying line whenever the key is down. It

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, I think you mean Keyout rather than PTT -- PTT is an input signal to the K3 generated by an external device such as a footswitch.. The use of TX INH does not prevent the Keyout signal from activating - it should click the relays and start your sequencer. BUT it does prevent RF from

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
It does seem a bit lame that KEY OUT is activated when the K3 is not transmitting. Maybe there should be an (optional) mode where the CW key inputs (including memory) are completely ignored when VOX is off and PTT is not asserted.. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Don

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Oliver Dröse
Hi Mike, That doesn't work too well because the PTT signal still bounces up and down setting off all the relays. My IC735 used to have a VOX delay which you could set to something long to prevent that - but unless I missed a menu I can't seem to find where you set the CW VOX hang time.

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Iain, That operation was tossed about at great length during the early K3 Firmware Field Test. I forget all the details, but the current operation was the consensus at the time. If one is using a sequencer with an external input into the K3 PTT, the sequencer should start activation with

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Mike Harris
It would be interesting to learn under what practical circumstances someone might offer that the current arrangement is a desired mode. I can't think of any, however, that could just be lack of imagination on my part. Until convinced otherwise my vote is with N6ML. CW mode, VOX off, no PTT

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread alexandr.kobranov
Hi Mike, if You open some mail-archive You can see a lot of mails concerning this behaviour (recognized as strange by some of us) from the first days of K3. There is probably no way for solution. So if You have key activated You have a Key Out activated. There is no real PTT out. Probably this

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Win Kriegl DK9IP/KH7CD
Yes and it has been quite disturbing that a K3 locked with TXinh still behaves (or looks) like it´s transmitting, although there is no power output. 73, Win DK9IP Am 28.08.2013 00:52, schrieb Mike Harris: It would be interesting to learn under what practical circumstances someone might

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-27 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We upgraded these BNC cables to much better quality versions some time ago. 73, Eric elecraft.com On 8/27/2013 11:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 8/27/2013 9:06 AM, Tom wrote: how does one build a mil-spec bnc cable? What's apparently causing the problem is poor quality of the coax, or the

[Elecraft] 6 kc filter

2013-08-27 Thread Bruce Kryder
Why is it when installing the 6kc filter in position 1 and configure it for 6kc then go to AM I can only widen it to 5Kc W4LWW Bruce __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] 6 kc filter

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bruce, The 6 kHz filter is at the IF frequency. passband AM is a double sideband transmission which means that the audio is only 1/2 of the IF passband width - 3kHz. The passband displayed by the K3 is the audio passband. A 5 kHz width would equate to a 10 kHz IF passband. 73, Don W3FPR

[Elecraft] RF gain per band

2013-08-27 Thread F5LCI
Wayne, Lyle et al. In a future firmware update, I would like that the RF GAIN could be set independently on each band. Anyway, what about this idea ? 72 de FO/F5LCI, Jean-Marc -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/RF-gain-per-band-tp7578326.html Sent from the

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, I cannot remember all the details in the original discussions, but I am with you.. I was outvoted. OTOH, if one is using KEYOUT to initiate the sequencer, if KEYOUT does not become active until PTT is asserted, then there is a cause and effect problem - the sequencer will not start

[Elecraft] Looking for.couple modules

2013-08-27 Thread W0WFH Bill
Looking for a KAT3 and a KDVR3 these can be kits not built, started not finished let me know what you got. Thanks Bill W0WFH w0...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

[Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3?

2013-08-27 Thread Tom
Hi I know that the P3 requires a serial connection to the K3 and the appropriate firmware and that this does not exist for the K2 and Kx3. However, will it display the spectrum? And if it does, can one emulate the serial commands via the P3 serial port? I am wondering if this could be an option

Re: [Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3?

2013-08-27 Thread Tom
I have determined that I can emulate the firmware and provide full functionality via serial commands. Now, would there be an interest for P3 usage on a kx3 or k2? Tom Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-27, at 10:33 PM, Tom tom...@videotron.ca wrote: Hi I know that the P3 requires a serial

Re: [Elecraft] Feature request - Disable Break In on K3

2013-08-27 Thread Edward R Cole
Interesting discussion. I use KEY-OUT to control my sequencer so my mic or KEY function just like they do on HF. I utilize INH to prevent RF until the proper time in sequence of change over from Rx to Tx. BUT, I do not do very much CW on VHF+ with my KEY. Most CW is computer keyboard

Re: [Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3?

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Will it require using a computer to do it? -Original Message- From: Tom Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:35 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3? I have determined that I can emulate the firmware and provide full functionality via serial

Re: [Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3?

2013-08-27 Thread wb4jfi
I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here with the KX3, pardon if I mis-interpret. Using a P3 requires that two issues be resolved: 1) control and, 2) RF signal input. P3 control is via the serial RS232 connection, and can be figured out. However, the P3 wants to a single RF