Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-13 Thread ab2tc
AB2TC - Knut W8JI wrote: > > Knowing the problem we had on assembly lines with small > screws... :-) > > 73 Tom > - Original Message - > From: "Don Wilhelm" > To: "Jack Brabham" > Cc: "'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'"

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-13 Thread Jack Brabham
dnesday, May 12, 2010 5:36 PM To: Jack Brabham; d...@w3fpr.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob Here's a link I just found http://www.radax.com/store.asp?pid=15198 __ Elecraft mai

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-12 Thread Tom W8JI
Here's a link I just found http://www.radax.com/store.asp?pid=15198 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This li

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-12 Thread Tom W8JI
> The "pinky" tight approach is OK if you are working with a > "D" shaft that > provides positive indexing. Otherwise, as in the round > shaft K3 concentric > pots, the set screw has to be very tight to maintain the > knob indexing. Jack, We used tens of thousands of knobs at Prime, Heathkit,

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-12 Thread drewko
Out of curiosity reading this thread I just removed the knobs on my K3 for the first time since they were installed nearly two years ago. The screws came out easily after the initial stiction was overcome; Twirling the wrench between thumb and index finger is all that is required to drive the screw

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-12 Thread Jack Brabham
27;elecraft@mailman.qth.net' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob Jack, If you stripped out the allen wrench, you were applying more force than is necessary, and excessive force may be the reason some of the newer knobs are cracking (that is just a guess). 73, Don W3FPR J

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
My personal rule for torque-wrenching small allen screws (once I know threads are clear) is "pinky pressure". I turn the allen wrench until it *just barely* runs into resistance. Then I put my pinky on the wrench and let some of the weight of my forearm (no pushing) tighten it up. Should not ever

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Tom W8JI
> My experiences are different. For small knobs you need to > use high > quality wrenches. Those .050 do work if you have a good > one. It's > amazing how much twist you can put in a high quality Allen > wrench > while trying to deal with a stubborn screw. I would not ever force the screw.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Tom W8JI
Knowing the problem we had on assembly lines with small screws... :-) 73 Tom - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" To: "Jack Brabham" Cc: "'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack, If you stripped out the allen wrench, you were applying more force than is necessary, and excessive force may be the reason some of the newer knobs are cracking (that is just a guess). 73, Don W3FPR Jack Brabham wrote: > Tim, > > I had a similar experience assembling #4169 a few weeks ag

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread David Christ
My experiences are different. For small knobs you need to use high quality wrenches. Those .050 do work if you have a good one. It's amazing how much twist you can put in a high quality Allen wrench while trying to deal with a stubborn screw. The next thing is to make sure that you have the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Jack Brabham
torque over the screw's full diameter. 73 Jack KZ5A -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N3XX Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:45 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
David Dunn wrote: > I wonder why Elecraft used "inch" measure Allen screws?? when all the > other threads in the K3 are metric.- Perhaps they had similar problems! > > I am not certain why you think the other threads are metric in the K3 - most of the screws are 4-40 which are not a metric si

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-09 Thread N3XX
nished. I don't think there was actually any marking I could see anyway. 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: "David Dunn" To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob >I

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-09 Thread David Dunn
I cannot imagine it would be hard to buy imperial measure Allen keys in USA ! Even in VK land where "standards" of measure are very dubious. (officially all metric) Our signposts in Kilometres, goods sold by the Kilogram, Timber by the metre, - but they still talk about 4 x 2's and 6 x 8 ft sheet

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-08 Thread Mike
If you can't find it at the hardware boutique, if there's a hobby shop close, try that. I'd take the knob with me. 73, Mike NF4L ab2tc wrote: > Hi all, > > I guess I"ll be heading out to the hardware store for a 0.050" or 1.27mm > allen wrench tomorrow. My radio was a kit originally, but I bought

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-08 Thread ab2tc
Hi all, I guess I"ll be heading out to the hardware store for a 0.050" or 1.27mm allen wrench tomorrow. My radio was a kit originally, but I bought it 2nd hand from the builder and may not have recieved the allen key. AB2TC - Knut N1JM wrote: > > If yours was a kit, you should of got one wit

[Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-08 Thread Ken Kopp
Knut, Any hardware store worth the name would have it. NAPA or virtually any auto parts supply store. Sears 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://ma

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-08 Thread N1JM
If yours was a kit, you should of got one with it. However, I suspect you could get one from Elecraft. The small knobs use a .050" and the large knobs take 5/64" allen wrench. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Help-hex-key-for-split-knob-tp5024310p5024343.h

[Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-08 Thread ab2tc
Hi all, My RF gain knob finally did the inevitable, it split and fell off. I had seen the crack and expected this so I have a full set of concentric knobs on hand supplied free by Elecraft. But they did not supply a hex key and I don't have one that is small enough! My smallest metric one is 1.5m