Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Wes
of your time, but FUN. Mel, K6KBE From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question On Sat,4/2/2016 6:45 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Does anyone have any infor

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Ronnie Hull
Thank you Richard! My thoughts exactly! Just pitch your loop up in the air and USE IT instead of trying to complicate it! My 75m loops is skewed all over the place, one side is lower than the other, one side sags, oh and one more thing, I've worked 289 countries with it!! W5sum Sent from

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Richard Collier
In my opinion, conditions such as soil conductivity , slope, orientation, height, obstacles, metal structures, length of feed line etc. vary so much it is almost worth just putting it up without getting too deep into modeling. I definitely would model it, I modeled mine and then just threw it

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Clay Autery
Thanks Jim... I've got 4NEC2, but haven't had the time to jump on that particular learning curve. I plan to invest in the pay version, may be EZNEC 5.0, I don't remember. But I'm drinking from several fire hoses at the moment. Soon, I hope... __ Clay Autery, KG5LKV MONTAC

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
I've been using an 80 m horizontal loop for as long as I have had my license, about 15 years. It's a bit irregular with two supports on my house and three in trees, height is 7-12 meters. I feed it with open wire feeder to an indoor Elecraft 4:1 balun and then use the tuner of the K2 or K3 to

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,4/2/2016 2:20 PM, Chuck - AE4CW wrote: Properly sized and fed, they offer well under 2:1 SWR within all the HF bands with the exception of 60M and 30M and perhaps 80M depending on the installed height. BUT -- remember that SWR is NOT a measure of antenna PERFORMANCE -- that is, how

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Chuck - AE4CW
Clay, I see you've received offers for data on the feed point impedance and VSWR of an 80M loop. If you feel you need more just let me know. I have modeled, built and used a number of 80M loops very successfully. Properly sized and fed, they offer well under 2:1 SWR within all the HF bands

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread john
Modeling is also very educational. You may learn that a proposed antenna is inferior to a simple dipole. I agree that EZNEC is easy to use and reasonably accurate. John KK9A [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question Mel Farrer farrerfolks at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 15:20:09 EDT 2016 I agree, I use ver 5

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
:44 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question On Sat,4/2/2016 6:45 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > Does anyone have any information or a link to information data on an 80 meter > loop's complex impedance and VSWR values across the HF bands? It's pretty easy to model with NEC, which yiel

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,4/2/2016 6:45 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Does anyone have any information or a link to information data on an 80 meter loop's complex impedance and VSWR values across the HF bands? It's pretty easy to model with NEC, which yields this data in the form a plot of VSWR vs frequency with data

Re: [Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Myron Schaffer
Clay, I can run an EZNEC model for you if you give me some more info about the loop. You said about 45 feet high and assume square. Did you want to feed it in the middle of one side or at the corner? I will model above average ground conductivity just to keep all my analyses consistent. I can

[Elecraft] 80 Meter loop question

2016-04-02 Thread Clay Autery
Does anyone have any information or a link to information data on an 80 meter loop's complex impedance and VSWR values across the HF bands? R, X, VSWR from say 3.5-30MHz or better 1.0-54 MHz, measurements taken at the loop ends with a short jumper, not a long feed-line. Preferably with loop