>> Now where is my KRX3? When I receive it I can drop
off this infuriating Zoo.
That's where I agree with you Mike.
I started this thread by suggesting a new setup option
for band buttons, a new enhancement that would detract
from no existing features.
I expected at most "not necessary" by th
These ideas make much more sense than trying to remap front panel
buttons. I think the field testers did a great job of defining how the
ergonomics are to flow.
~Brett
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 20:43 -0700, Lee Buller wrote:
> Idea
>
> Why not make an additional set of control buttons and use
Idea
Why not make an additional set of control buttons and use the "secret"
connector on the bottom right side of the K3. Just a small panel that would
fit under the K3 and would give you numerous programmable buttons. Then, you
could set up the button on the little add on panel.
Or, fo
Or you can just use an up/down and get done the working up the bands and
scanning with the dial...
Hell our forefathers had to tune up for quite some time to change bands.
Now we've reached the point where using and up/down button set is too
slow for us. Then god forbid we actually have to engage
>>>Just what is "the big deal" about pushing a single
button instead of pushing two buttons in sequence to
get to the band and mode you want? <<<
Hey Doug - You hit the nail on the head, contestors
have the optimal solution with the stock K3. But
"modest stations", what I'll call condo class or
di
that the M1-M4 could
be mapped to 80m 40m 20m and 10m and a single press of
the REC button would display briefly "WARC" on the
display and then M1-M4 would be 60m 30m 17m and 12m.
But I really don't think it's about panel space, it's
about how the designers want us to
And take away my CW memory buttons? That's madness!
I've got more band changing methods than I can keep track of already.
73- Nick, WA5BDU
Don Rasmussen wrote:
It still sticks in my craw that I have 5 single press
buttons on the front panel that I'll never use.
Elecraft - please make the
Drew - as I see it (past owner of OMNI VI+ and
IC756Pro) there is simply no substitute for single
button press band changes. It's a big deal. YMMV.
[Elecraft] Band Button gripe - was ON4UN has a K3?
drewko1 at verizon.net drewko1 at verizon.net
Fri Jul 25 21:54:09 EDT 2008
Don, h
Don, here's another idea...
Right now, the RIT knob has the option of being used as a coarse VFO
tuner when RIT and XIT are off. Perhaps people would like the option
of using it as a band switch instead? (I am pretty happy with the
numeric keypad system myself.)
73,
Drew
AF2Z
On Fri, 25 Jul 2
It still sticks in my craw that I have 5 single press
buttons on the front panel that I'll never use.
Elecraft - please make these available for use as
single press BAND buttons.
M1 M2 M3 M4 REC
80 40 20 15 10
That way we get into the ballpark with a single press
and can band up or ban
July 06, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button
In a message dated 7/6/08 2:36:25 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What does "top band" mean?
160 meters (1.8 to 2.0 MHz)
The name derives from the time when we thought primarily
in terms of
wavelength.
This one has been beaten into submission. Time to end the thread.
Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator
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From: Ian White GM3SEK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, Jul 6, 2008 2:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ian White GM3SEK &
N2EY wrote:
160 is the longest wave hams can use, hence it's the top band.
That's right - keep pressing BAND ^ and there it is, just above 50MHz.
--
73 from Ian GM3SEK
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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I think the most practical unit of measure is the "chain". It is
perfect in that 20 would be 1 and then the bands are up or down from
there.
Also makes laying out antennas in the yard very easy.
73,
Bob
K2TK
Vic K2VCO wrote:
Don Wilhelm wrote:
For those who will now want to add cycles p
G'day,
| 160 is the longest wave hams can use, hence it's the top band.
|
| 73 de Jim, N2EY
137kHz = 2188 metres
Regards,
Mike VP8NO
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In a message dated 7/6/08 2:36:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> What does "top band" mean?
>
160 meters (1.8 to 2.0 MHz)
The name derives from the time when we thought primarily in terms of
wavelength. Going to a longer wave was going "up" and to a shorter wave was
"
Bzzt. What does "top band" mean?
73, doug
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: AD6XY - Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think there is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "Band".
The higher bands for example refer to the bands in terms of frequency. The
20m ban
I think there is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "Band".
The higher bands for example refer to the bands in terms of frequency. The
20m band is in terms of wavelength. However, no bands are officially
described in terms of wavelength any more. Not since 150m and down! Look at
all b
No credit for me on that one George - Lyle was the first to recognize
the units.
73,
Don W3FPR
George Victor wrote:
Heinrich Hertz would be proud !
You have to credit Don for his new term for cpf - perhaps wm?
Lets all meet on 8.515584e12 wm for some QRP CW.
So do I push the button UP or DOWN?
Heinrich Hertz would be proud !
You have to credit Don for his new term for cpf - perhaps wm?
Lets all meet on 8.515584e12 wm for some QRP CW.
So do I push the button UP or DOWN? :-)
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Vic K2VCO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vic K2VCO wrote:
>>
>> Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>
Vic K2VCO wrote:
Don Wilhelm wrote:
For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their
conversion tables:
1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight.
I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this
morning and did the calculation on paper :-)
Funny, the firs
Don Wilhelm wrote:
For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their
conversion tables:
1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight.
I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this
morning and did the calculation on paper :-)
Funny, the first thing I did when
For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their
conversion tables:
1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight.
I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this
morning and did the calculation on paper :-)
73,
Don W3FPR
Lyle Johnson wrote:
For those who pref
Jim N2EY wrote:
Even odder, FCC refers to 3.5-3.6 MHz as "80 meters" and 3.6-4.0 MHz as
"75
meters" as if they were not right next to each other.
I am not making this up. When I first heard about it, I thought my leg was
being pulled, so I went and checked.
Tradition in Region 2 was that "80
The Romans didn't even have the concept of zero - it was introduced
from Messopitainia (spelling?) after their fall, if I remember
correctly.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174.0
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I never did a day's work in my life; it was all fun. -Thomas Edison
Did the Romans have a decimal point?
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Lyle Johnson wrote:
> My
vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and
INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!
Only the VFO B can display in roman numerals. We can't do M, V or X in
VFO A.
And we'll use furlongs for wavelength.
The audible feedb
Thanks all for a good laugh this Sunday morning on the subject of
frequency/wavelength units!
73
Tom G3OLB (patiently waiting)
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I was wondering if you have or had a K2 and if you relabeled it as well?
George
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:47:25 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
>Actually, both terms are used by FCC. I just checked Part 97, and the terms
>are used almost interchangeably.
>
>For example, the title of 97.301 is "Authorized Frequency Bands". But when
>you look at the charts which tell who
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:46:44 -0400, Tony Fegan VE3QF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and
>INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!
:O)
[snip]
Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq
"Those who would give up
On Jul 5, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
For those who prefer frequency in this mode, the reference won't be
in Hertz, but in cycles per fortnight.
This is a great Forum...
Yes, it is, to go with a great rig.
But I would prefer the frequency to be in natural units, i.e.
radians
My vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and
INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!
Only the VFO B can display in roman numerals. We can't do M, V or X in
VFO A.
And we'll use furlongs for wavelength.
The audible feedback from the DVR option
My vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and
INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!
Now, back to normal service.
73 and enjoy
Tony Fegan VE3QF
K3 #137
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
K3KO wrote:
This isn't just the K3. Other ra
Sorry for the added bandwidth but for worry of the rig getting broken I
vote to no have a fix implemented. In my mind I consider the 20 meter
band below the 10 meter band. So yes when I press DOWN on a band switch
I expect to go to lower frequencies. I'm sure there are many who think
I'm dumb fo
Don't "fix" mine.
73, Jim
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From: "hank k8dd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PhilB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button
> Yeah, anyhow . there are other thi
Yeah, anyhow . there are other things that really need to be fixed
before cosmetic stuff like that!
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From: "PhilB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button
Please Elecraft, leave the
In a message dated 7/5/08 6:25:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Nowhere is it written that the bands assigned to the Amateur service must
> be
> referred to by wavelength.
Agreed.
Indeed, here in the USA, our FCC refers to the
>
> slices of spectrum we're assigned
K3KO wrote:
> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to
be
> a mistake that persisted through the years.
>
> The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency.
>
> You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and
> band goes
Gosh,
How the true origin of names get lost with time is amazing.
Bands were named after their approximate wavelength. They weren't pulled
out of a hat. One can probably find a question related to this in a 1950's
vintage Novice exam.
Also people have forgotten that the so called "low ban
K3KO wrote:
This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be
a mistake that persisted through the years.
The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency.
You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band
goes up.
It would
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT), K3KO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be
>a mistake that persisted through the years.
>
>The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency.
>
>You push the up arrow a
Please Elecraft, leave the Band Button the way it is now.
Phil K7PB
- Original Message -
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is the situation that has been around since dirt was young. The
bands are usually referred to in terms of their wavelength (meters).
Most people
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT), K3KO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be
>a mistake that persisted through the years.
>
>The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency.
>
>You push the up arrow a
e an apology to the world for having mis-titled
his classic antenna book about "Low Band DXing". Just about
everything between the covers is about 40, 80, and 160
meters!
Good try, but no sale!
Dave W7AQK
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From: "Brian Alsop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Alsop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button
| Don ,
|
| I agree we think in bands. That's why the band button arrows ought to
| do the right thing.
|
| Here is the situation now:
| I want t
So the 'light dawns'.
This is the situation that has been around since dirt was young. The
bands are usually referred to in terms of their wavelength (meters).
Most people automatically think of 20 meters as being 'higher' than 30
meters because the frequency is higher. Of course there are e
Don ,
I agree we think in bands. That's why the band button arrows ought to
do the right thing.
Here is the situation now:
I want to go from 20 to 10 meters. I have to press the DOWN button to
go from 10 -->20. Doesn't makes sense by any thought process.
Last I knew they still teach count
I think what he is trying to say is that if you hit the band up button, it
actually selects a higher frequency band, not a higher band number.
ie: I'm on 7020 (40 meters) and hit the ban up button it goes to 10,140 (30
meters). So it's not going to a higher number band but a higher frequency.
Your lexicon must be quite different than mine. In my 54 years of
association with ham radio, we have had Amateur "Bands". Why would one
want to label the device that changes between these bands as a
"frequency" switch? The VFO changes frequency, the band switch changes
bands.
You are free
This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be
a mistake that persisted through the years.
The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency.
You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band
goes up.
It would be nice to h
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