RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Joe, W4TV wrote: This is key and should be enforced. Many years ago Bell Labs (and others) proved rather thoroughly that 2.4 to 2.6 KHz was more than adequately for communications purposes. Their tests were specifically in relation to toll grade audio for long distance telephony. The FCC

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good Excellent job Mike! And if someone doesn't like bass all they need do is adjust the EQ. Now we have a choice. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Mike Scott-7 wrote: I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. Because people use their radios in different ways. Some of us don't want to waste energy generating frequencies that add nothing to the ability to be heard when signals

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Craig
If I could make my K3 sound like its using a Heil HC4 cartridge I would be happy. The Heil HC4 audio sound is ESSB for me! Maybe at sometime in the future transmitting through the 2.1khz filter on SSB will be made possible. A further refinement of carrier point adjustment combined with an

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: S Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're not broadcasters, we're communicators. That's true. But there are all sorts of communication! That extra frequency response takes away from the spectrum available for our fellow Amateurs. Hold that thought Don't even

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good -Original Message- From: S Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're not broadcasters, we're communicators. That's true. But there are all sorts of communication! That extra frequency

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. On what information do you make this claim? 73 de Jim, N2EY

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 12:00:51 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. On what

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. -- Oh really? Well, I guess I'm not part of most then. I'm a CW op but I'm thrilled these

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Ian J Maude
Darwin, Keith wrote: I think it makes a lot of sense (a LOT) to say narrow bandwidth signals at the low end of the band, wide signals at the top, mids in the middle. If someone wants to run ESSB at 5 KHz, that's fine, we'll allocate some space at the high end of the band so they can play have

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 5, 2008, at 1:35 AM, G4ILO wrote: Mike Scott-7 wrote: I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. Because people use their radios in different ways. Some of us don't want to waste energy generating frequencies that add

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
I feel lots of heat but very little light on this subject here. Just different wavelengths of the same thing, Brian. And if you are fast enough and in the right direction, you can shift either to the other, can't you? Next we will talk about how it is ALL digital, that there is no such

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Serwy
: Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. On what information do you make this claim? 73 de Jim, N2EY

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread ab2tc
I don't think there is any doubt that Elecraft will not satisfy everybody until the transmit bandwidth is made fully customizable, just like the receiver. I understand that this is also Elecraft's intention. It would seem to make sense to have a CONFIG option that works just like the hi/lo cut

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 5, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: I feel lots of heat but very little light on this subject here. Just different wavelengths of the same thing, Brian. Well, not quite. It doesn't get to be the same thing until AFTER the vibrational energy in the bonds is reemitted as

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Roar Dehli
Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. Unfortunately, certain special interest groups continue to drive the debate. Hi. There are also a lot of radio amateurs that are concerned about the fact that

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Roar Dehli
I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. For me I have been reluctant to check into a regular rag chew net until I could have some extra low frequency response. I knew that the K3 wouldn't measure up and I didn't want the K3 to be seen

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:37 PM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good Ian J Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea, give them 5kHz :-) Sorry, I could not resist! I would have thought that the use of ESSB

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread John
More Bass on my fish stringer, is better. John k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

[Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Hi Joe, I don't run ESSB here BUT...I prefer the revised K3 firmware as it now is. Apparently many others feel the same based on responses in this thread. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and the rest of us to ours as well. 73 de N1LQ-Dave

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 5/5/08 5:14:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many years ago Bell Labs (and others) proved rather thoroughly that 2.4 to 2.6 KHz was more than adequately for communications purposes. Their tests were specifically in relation to toll grade audio for

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Shane White
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n4lq Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:14 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good Excellent job Mike! And if someone doesn't like bass all they need do is adjust the EQ. Now we have a choice. Steve

[Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Scott
I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. For me I have been reluctant to check into a regular rag chew net until I could have some extra low frequency response. I knew that the K3 wouldn't measure up and I didn't want the K3 to be seen in

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-04 Thread S Sacco
We're not broadcasters, we're communicators. That extra frequency response takes away from the spectrum available for our fellow Amateurs. Don't even get me started on that ESSB stuff...and why is AM even LEGAL anymore, anyway? 73, Steve NN4X On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Mike Scott [EMAIL

[Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-04 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Amen, Mike. Well Said. 73 de N1LQ-Dave ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-04 Thread n4lq
] Bass in audio is good I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. For me I have been reluctant to check into a regular rag chew net until I could have some extra low frequency response. I knew that the K3 wouldn't measure up and I didn't want