There is ample amounts of kool-aid flooding around here still i see...:-)
Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 14/12/2014 1:39 AM, "Kevin Stover" wrote:
> Nicely put Guy.
> My WK3USB has totally replaced my Logikey K5 for everything...not just
> contests.
> I think I'll try "Bug Mode"
Nicely put Guy.
My WK3USB has totally replaced my Logikey K5 for everything...not just
contests.
I think I'll try "Bug Mode" this afternoon, or maybe Ultimatic.
I always thought Elecraft should have licensed the WK2/3 chip from K1EL
like Micro Ham did.
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R. Kevin Stover
AC0H
ARRL
FISTS #1199
Well said, thank you!
Bill W2BLC K-Line
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Ian White wrote:
>
> That list would be a reasonable 'industry-wide benchmark' for the
> keying/timing modes that a premium CW transceiver like the K3 should
> offer as built-in options.
>
/rant mode on/
[Medical warning: delete this message now without reading if
h other high-end transceivers, I would
NEVER expect Elecraft to settle for being 'ordinary' or 'average' - not
in this way or any other.
73 from Ian GM3SEK
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>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>Phil Wheel
tronic keyer.
73,
Harry K1RSA
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil
Wheeler
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bug mode on K3?
Ian,
The K14 and its kin are devices specializing i
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Wheeler
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bug mode on K3?
Ian,
The K14 and its kin are devices specializing in being keyers; and that's all
they were intended to do. Expecting the K3 to have th
Ian,
The K14 and its kin are devices specializing in
being keyers; and that's all they were intended to
do. Expecting the K3 to have the keying
capabilities of one of the specialized K1EL
products seems a bit much.
A better 'industry-wide benchmark' might be to
compare the K3 with other hi
Ed - KL7UW wrote:
>
>The K14 offers six keying modes:
>1- Iambic-A
>2- Iambic-B
>3- Ultimatic
>4- straight key
>5- Dit priority
>6- Dash priority
>
And others have also identified:
7- Mechanical bug
8- CMOS Superkeyer (Logikeyer)
That list would be a reasonable 'industry-wide benchmark' for the
k
On Tue,12/9/2014 8:53 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
Any box with a keyer chip based on any version of WinKey has IambicA,
IambicB and Ultimatic as choices of keying modes. This would be any of the
Winkey boxes of course, the MicroHam contest boxes, and others I can't
recall at the moment.
Also th
Go for a Winkey chip based box, which includes the MicroHam line and the
Winkey "house models", and set the mode to "Ultimatic" to use with your
single lever paddle. It is the most "natural" by far for someone raised on
a mechanical bug and who just can't get themselves to do Iambic.
Any box with
Folks, I actually have a "real" Vibroplex, given to me by a friend who
was a Coast Guard Radioman. It has all the problems of a basic
Vibroplex, mainly dots way too fast. I tried putting a little cable
clamp on it as some of my crew did years ago, but that adds a lot of
inertia and probably
: Al Gulseth
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Agreed on "bang for the buck"; another in that category IMHO is the Kent SP-1.
I have b
Agreed on "bang for the buck"; another in that category IMHO is the Kent SP-1.
I have both, with a slight edge to the Kent, but YMMV. And, for the op who
wants the feel of a bug with an electronic keyer, the Vibroplex "VibroKeyer"
is still in production... fifty years after it was introduced
> They are progressive, offering versions of Iambic keying only.
The fact that a keyer offers Iambic A/Iambic B has *nothing* to do
with the ability to support a single lever paddle. I have used single
lever paddles with the Iambic keyers in Icom (IC-706mkIIg), Yaesu
(FT-1000D, FT-1000MP MKV,
Here is another single lever paddle:
http://www.americanmorse.com/bushwhacker.htm
Pretty decent bang for the buck.
73,
Bob
K2TK
On 12/9/2014 8:37 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> Single lever paddles appear to have gone the way,
Vibroplex, Begali, Schurr (Scheurnemann) and others still offer s
Bill -
I don't understand what you mean by "They are progressive...". I use a
single lever paddle, and have for years, with my IC-7000, with a borrowed
IC-756 Pro III, and for about 3 years now, with my K3.
Dave - K9FN
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:56 PM, W2BLC wrote:
> The internal keyers on seve
The internal keyers on several rigs I have used, including the K3, do
not well support the single lever paddle. They are progressive, offering
versions of Iambic keying only. If they did function properly with a
single lever paddle - then why do you suppose I built a keyer to use
with my padd
> Single lever paddles appear to have gone the way,
Vibroplex, Begali, Schurr (Scheurnemann) and others still offer single
lever paddles.
most of the current rigs (K3 included) do not well support such a key
Any of the rigs, including the K3, that include keyers work just fine
with single le
Bill and all,
There are single lever paddles to be had (but not inexpensive ones).
There are two manufacturers of paddles that offer single lever varieties.
I am the proud owner of a K3ZN KNSLR single lever paddle set. Tony does
make very find paddles and other keying devices, smooth as silk.
I learned on a Vibroplex single lever paddle and a Hallicrafters HA-1 TO
Keyer. That was in the 60s.
Single lever paddles appear to have gone the way, as most of the current
rigs (K3 included) do not well support such a key. Hence, I built a
little box with a couple of 2032 batteries in it, a
Ed,
I think you will have a better time with Ultimatic mode than Bug mode -
especially with dual lever paddles.
Actually it is about the same - close the dit side and get a string of
dits, then close the dah side (even if the dit side is still closed) and
you get a string of dahs. In other w
that ought to work OK.
Let you know how it goes after a couple weeks! ;-)
73, Ed - KL7UW
PS: I waited until 2000 to upgrade to Extra after CW requirement was
lowered to 13wpm.
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:46:26 -0800
From: Phil Wheeler
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bug mode
I have the K1EL K42, Ed. Built it last Spring for
the fun of it as much as anything. It was a very
nice kt and the final product seems excellent.
This thread title has been making me chuckle a
bit: How often do hams ask for bugs in their
equipment? :-
So I have a weird sense of humor :-)
P
And don't forget the tactile feedback provided to your fingers by the momentum
of the weight and the arm swinging back and forth.
I suspect that those who want this haven't a clue about actually using a
mechanical bug.
Vic K2VCO/4X6GP
> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:20 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>
>
I received a K1EL K14 Keyer in the mail from Joel, W4BBJ, who offered
it to me when I reported having trouble learning to use my paddle
with Iambic keying (using the k3 internal keyer).
The K14 offers six keying modes:
1- Iambic-A
2- Iambic-B
3- Ultimatic
4- straight key
5- Dit priority
6- Dash
ck, but some
> would like their paddles to send automatic dits and manual dahs like a bug.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill - NA5DX
>
> On 12/8/2014 7:17 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>
>> Message: 2 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 11:48:32 -0600 From: Jim Allen <
>> jallen
Jim Allen
To: John Fritze Cc:
elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bug mode
on K3? Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Maybe an even dumber question:
Why do you need a bug mode? The radio doesn't know you are using a
bug, or a straight key, does it? 73 de W6OGC Jim Alle
M, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 12:45:23 -0500
From: John Fritze
To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Bug mode on K3?
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I have a really dumb question:
For those that want a "bug mo
You can certainly do that, but when I've tried it in the past I found
that the feel is totally different from a mechanical "bug"
(semi-automatic key). To the point that I basically couldn't send with it.
Alan N1AL
On 12/07/2014 09:45 AM, John Fritze wrote:
I have a really dumb question:
F
At the same time, I'd like to have a selection of "nothing" on at least the
ring input of the key jack. (Actually my request is for the KX3, but I
assume they work the same way.)
With "Nothing" selected on the ring and "KEY" selected on the tip, the key
input would be compatible with mono
Maybe an even dumber question: Why do you need a bug mode?
The radio doesn't know you are using a bug, or a straight key, does it?
73 de W6OGC Jim Allen
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, John Fritze wrote:
> I have a really dumb question:
>
> For those that want a "bug mode" on the K3, why is
I have a really dumb question:
For those that want a "bug mode" on the K3, why is it not possible to wire
a set of paddles (or even a single lever keyer) with the dot going to the
paddles input and the dash going to the straight key input?
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John Fritze Jr
K2QY
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