Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-18 Thread Hector Padron
iu To: Jim Cc: Elecraft Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction Good, Jim.  I trust you know how to find me and Adam. TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Jim 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2011年05月17日 (週二) 10:16 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction John

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-18 Thread Hector Padron
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction Hello Bill,   I trust Elecraft engineers have already listened to some elecrafters' comments as compared with the NR in Icom radios. Elecraft will find ways to improve the NR by regular firmware updates.   I ha

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread goldtr8
I use the BHI in my mobile rig and could not live without it. Audio NR only effects the spectrum going to the speaker and it really can reduce the hiss. I am going to look at Dayton to see if they have a stereo version, if they do I will be bringing it home with me. Don KD8NNU On Tue, May 1

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Grant Youngman
20 dB for both per spec. I suspect they're both LMS, but haven't tried the Lingua. I do like the Hear It, even if it does have that watery LMS sound. But it isn't the ultimate solution either. And as you say, it's worthless on CW. Do I believe the other radio's NB are so much better? Nah. Not

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
Lyle Johnson schrieb am 16 May 2011 um 17:57: > We are always looking at ways of doing this better, and went through a very > lengthy several months ago to improve NR. You can be sure that we will > revisit it when we review the status of the K3 firmware and operation. the best NR (for my taste)

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Adi Andrei
For NR I always use BHI (Gap Hear it) or Lingua (http://www.ssbusa.com/LINGUA.html) products. They seem to be very similar technology, with the audio implemented a bit differently. If you use headphones for very weak signals in large amounts of noise, I recommend the 10W BHI speaker, it has a n

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Edward R. Cole
So far, I have not used the K3+2m transverter on weak-eme CW, but when I did quite a bit of eme-CW several years before the advent of digital-eme I found the use of NR and DSP narrow BW filters (100-200 Hz) necessary to copy CW. This was using my FT-847 which has a more limited DSP menu than

[Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Good, Jim.  I trust you know how to find me and Adam. TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Jim 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2011年05月17日 (週二) 10:16 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction Johnny, look forward to seeing you at Dayton at either the Elecraft booth or with Adam. I also

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Jim
ck because it becomes too aggressive. 73 de KE4WY Jim -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:01 AM To: Bill W4ZV; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise

[Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Johnny Siu
se, I will definitely visit the Elecraft booth.   See you later! TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Bill W4ZV 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2011年05月17日 (週二) 8:06 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction KK7P wrote: > > In the end, NR is a filter, and like any filter it will affect w

[Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Johnny Siu
se, I will definitely visit the Elecraft booth.   See you later! TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Bill W4ZV 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2011年05月17日 (週二) 8:06 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction KK7P wrote: > > In the end, NR is a filter, and like any filter it will affect w

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-17 Thread Bill W4ZV
KK7P wrote: > > In the end, NR is a filter, and like any filter it will affect what is > being passed through it. The weaker the signal, the more it appears > like noise and the harder it is to separate the two. > This is why some of us use a relatively wide DSP filter (4-500 Hz) when listen

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Eugene Balinski
All, For basic noise reduction operation, the ADSP-2 unit in the venerable SGC SG-2020 is about the best DSP I have heard. IMHO it sets the bar for all DSP NR units. The NR has 2 levels. The first level is excellent for electrical noise and QRN removal along with a great auto-notch funct

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
The K3 NR algorithm is a trade-off between noise reduction and stability. The wider the dynamic range of signals presented to it, the more aggressive it must be, which in turn makes it less useful for applying small amounts of noise reduction. The NR pays some attention to the settings of AGC S

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Ruben Navarro Huedo
Yes, i think the same. Best ussable NR for me is from last Icom HF radios. Like Tony told: It is not a major obstable, but ... i wish it was better. El 16/05/2011 22:16, N2TK, Tony escribió: > I am in agreement with you about the NR. It has been one thing I have raised > the issue about for quit

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread N2TK, Tony
ore days till Dayton. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Sack Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Dick wrote: > Bill, > > Could you refer me to those urls?  This is a most interesting thread > about NR and NB.  To date my K3 is not as good as my 756 PRO III. > However, I am still new to the K3 and believe it to be cockpit error. > Other than that the k3 is a d

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Dick
Bill, Could you refer me to those urls? This is a most interesting thread about NR and NB. To date my K3 is not as good as my 756 PRO III. However, I am still new to the K3 and believe it to be cockpit error. Other than that the k3 is a dynamite box. AGC, interesting will try working with that.

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Dick
Bill, Could you refer me to those urls? This is a most interesting thread about NR and NB. To date my K3 is not as good as my 756 PRO III. However, I am still new to the K3 and believe it to be cockpit error. Other than that the k3 is a dynamite box. AGC, interesting will try working with th

Re: [Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Bill (K9YEQ)
Ron, I don't have the 5k to compare, but have read and tried all the settings of the K3 for AGC and NR/NB. I have found the wide variety of settings very beneficial as I can set the K3 for the best performance in my situation. I think that a recent post had at least 4 URL's you could visit to he

[Elecraft] K-3 Noise Reduction

2011-05-16 Thread Ron Midwin
I have a K-3, S/N 1997 and was talking to a friend who also has a K-3 on the air recently. He mentioned that he also recently purchased a Yaesu FT 5000 and noticed that the noise reduction on the FT 5000 seems to do a better job of reducing the noise while still having good copy on the signal.