I recently decided to test a very old low output/low impedance hand mic on
my K3 when I soon found some confusing information in the latest K3 manual.
My K3's firmware is current. I have two concerns: first, pg. 20 of the
owner's manual mentions additional mic gain can be enabled by tapping the 3
b
Elecraft guys have the patience of a saint. Just search the archive!
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http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2007-05/msg00828.html
de Doug KR2Q
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Gary,
Regarding the mic Z, you can use any mic, high or low Z.
I am using a D104 with my K3, and as you know conventional wisdom says they
want extremely high Z. Use what mic you have and use TX EQ to get it to sound
good.
Rick K2XT
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On 5/6/2012 9:26 AM, Gary wrote:
> The second concern involves mic impedance. Except for a brief mention of
> "Low-Z (~600 ohms)" on pg. 13 and "MIC MONO; hi- or low-Z" on pg 20 I
> haven't found any mention of where Elecraft differentiates between high and
> low mic impedance nor what may be too h
I know I'm going to figure this out only *after* I break down and ask for
help ... but I gotta ask anyway I suppose.
I have the K3/100 and an MH2 microphone and I am measuring output power with
a calibrated scope across a dummy load.
I have been setting up audio gain and compression as instruct
Hello Don,
The low SSB peak power output (approx, 50%) when Tune puts out full power is a
textbook case of what I have found. I can also confirm your other findings
(ie., the 100 watt SSB spike at beginning of transmission). I am surprised
more people haven't noticed this. I have emailed Wayn
No you are not alone, I see the same thing here on my scope. K3 #325
73, Deni
F5VJC
Hello Don,
The low SSB peak power output (approx, 50%) when Tune puts out full power is
a textbook case of what I have found. I can also confirm your other
findings (ie., the 100 watt SSB spike at beginning of t
You are not alone
Not only SSB. I have overshoot on CW.
Adjust your power to e.g. to 22W and wait a while.
With the first mark, the power shoot high
but comes at once down to preset value of 22W.
Instantly following mark starts OK.
You have to wait for about 15 seconds to see it fully again.
Paul - if me and some ham friends were to take up a
collection and get a microphone for you, would you use
it? Or would it end up deep in a drawer or possibly
pushed back in the closet, never to be seen? I know
some people like you... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret
microphone. The mic is connected to the K3 rear panel mic jack. The
Arlan instructions recommend using "Option 7" for +10 DB of additional
Mic Pre-amp gain for close-talk mics.
How do you set "Option 7"? What menu is it in
Hello group,
Working phone on 40m tonight, and noticed that I could only set mic gain to
3 before ALC maxed out on the K3's meter. Is this normal? I'm using the
stock Elecraft hand mic.
73,
James K3JPS
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Hello group,
Working phone on 40m tonight, and noticed that I could only set mic gain to 3
before ALC maxed out on the K3’s meter. Is this normal? I’m using the stock
Elecraft hand mic.
73,
James K3JPS
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Don,
This issue is fixed (or closer to being fixed ;-) in the DSP and MCU
firmware that is currently in fled test.
73,
Lyle KK7P
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Not only SSB. I have overshoot on CW.
This problem appears to be rig-specific. I just duplicated his test using
three wattmeters in series, together with a Bird 4273 RF sample. The sample
feeds a Tektronix SC504 oscilloscope. My wattmeters are the Alpha 4510,
LP-100, and Array PowerMaster.
I have to echo what Paul says. This must be rig specific.
I don't have the elegant equipment he describes, but taking the output
of the K3 to a dummy load (50.1 + j0) and looking at it on an old HP
1740A scope, I see no overshoot on either CW or on SSB using an Elecraft
Proset plugged into the
Ken K3IU wrote:
>
> I have to echo what Paul says. This must be rig specific.
>
This is just a shot in the dark - in fact I decided against posting this
when I first saw the thread because it's probably wrong - but could it be
*mic* specific? Some mics disconnect the element when the PTT is rel
G'morning:
That's a good thought. I used both VOX and a foot-switch PTT and saw
nothing unusual using either method.
73,
Ken K3IU
K3 #202
G4ILO wrote:
Ken K3IU wrote:
I have to echo what Paul says. This must be rig specific.
This is just a shot in the dark - in fact I decided agains
This afternoon, chatting with a couple of locals on 6M, they mentioned I had
some
noise on my signal. One said it sounded like a radio in the background, the
other
characterized it as a loud hiss, with some intermittent high pitched blurbs.
I disconnected the computer(RS232 & audio IO) and e
Greetings Elecrafters,
I previously posted a question to the group about mic gain settings in
conjunction with the Elecraft MH2 hand mic. Prior to the slew of recent
firmware updates, I had to set microphone bias to low, and keep the mic
gain at 4 or 5. Anything higher, and ALC would start to re
tap MENU to get into MAIN
locate MIC SEL
tap DISP
read the info that scrolls across VFO B
it will tell you about toggling Boost
by taping Number 1 on the number pad
On 3/12/2014 8:40 PM, John wrote:
I'm trying to setup a set a Radio Sport headset, with the M350 Electret
microphone. The mic is c
And tap 7 for an additional 10db of gain!
I'm sure " Its in the book!"
...bill nr4c
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Sam Morgan wrote:
>tap MENU to get into MAIN
>locate MIC SEL
>tap DISP
>read the info that scrolls across VFO B
>it will tell you about toggling Boost
>by taping Num
Page 20 K3 Owner's man D10.pdf
MIC
MONO; hi- or low-Z
This jack accommodates an electret or dynamic
mic. Use MAIN:MIC SEL to select the rear panel
mic (RP). Tap 1 to turn on Low or High mic gain
range. Tap 2 to turn bias on/off (see pg. 28 for
recommendations based on mic type).
For the front-pan
Yes the ref to 3 is a long overdue edit. I have used 7 to work with my Heil
HM12 in front panel. Was unaware it doesn't work for rear jack. CM500 plugged
in there, no need.
...bc
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Sam Morgan wrote:
>Page 20 K3 Owner's man D10.pdf
>
>MIC
>MONO; hi-
After returning from Elecraft for repair and updating my K3 (1087) will
reset it's Mic gain to 1 and Compression to zero.
I backed up the radio's configuration when I get it back and reloading
it does not solve the problem, which occurs at boot up more times then not.
This is a barefoot setup
Since you use DXLab I'd suggest checking Commander's "User-defined Controls"
configuration. Is there a slider for Mic gain? If so, is it configured to
"Initialize radio"?
In Commander click "Help" then select "sliders" for more info.
Andy, k3wyc
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I'm just now (finally!) in the process of learning, configuring, and adjusting
my new K3 (S/N 888). I have a Heil Pro-Set with the standard dynamic HC-5 mic
element, which is known to be kind of low in output compared to most other
dynamic mics. It does work beautifully and the audio reports hav
> Is the CM500 that hot? Where else could the noise be coming from? Does the
> monitor
> pick up from received signals, or just the mic?
MON is just Tx. For my CM500 I have RP.L BIAS for mic setting, gain is
10. FOr my voice, CMP14 is about right.
73,
Lyle KK7P
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Mike,
That sounds like you have your MIC SEL menu set for "H" - try tapping
the "1" button to change it to "L" so you can set your mic gain higher
(and gives you more range). I don't know if it will help your noise,
but it would explain the difference between your setting of 9 and the
other f
Don and all,
I also use the CM-500 and run Bias L
Mic @ 19
Comp @ 15
I do have a soft voice and do speak softly as well as I am in a quiet
operating position. (Under the awning of my Motorhome) until the Cockatoos
start to scream.
Gary
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Mik
Thanks Lyle, Don and Gary.
I did have MIC SEL set to high. I set it to L and with the mic gain at 10, I
get the
correct bars. I'll check later when I can get one of the critical locals on to
see if
that fixed the XMIT noise, which is what I really want to solve.
Mike
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:54:42 -0700, Lyle Johnson wrote:
>MON is just Tx. For my CM500 I have RP.L BIAS for mic setting, gain is
>10. FOr my voice, CMP14 is about right.
The CM500 IS hot. I've never noticed, or had complaints, of any background
noise. I also run it into the rear panel. Make s
I wasn't sure the mic was the source of the noise, but after setting it to L,
on
air trial indicates that the issue is fully resolved.
Thanks again.
Mike
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Hi James,
I installed firmware 4.17 then went back to 4.14 yesterday.
What I noticed today is that I had to change the mic gain, but in the
opposite direction of what you did.
I am using a Peltor headset fitted with a HC-4 capsule, and I used mic
gain around 20-22, compression 23, no bias, ga
Hello Philippe,
Thanks for the reply. It seems something has changed in the way the K3
handles mic bias and gain with the latest firmware releases.
I'm also wondering if there is a difference with the way mic gain is handled
between modes; i.e. SSB and FM. I noticed that with FM, I have to cran
Has anyone else noticed similar? I still haven't gotten a definitive
answer, and am curious to see if others had experienced the same.
Also, I've noticed that FM always requires a bit more mic gain to achieve
the same level of ALC action as opposed to sideband. Can anyone confirm?
73 de James K
You can determine if it's caused by RFI very easily. Try transmitting
into a dummy load.
73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
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On 16/06/2023 16:46, Russ Edelen wrote:
After returning from Elecraft for repair and updating my K3 (1087) will
reset
I forgot to add --
It's also possible (probable?) that your computer program is doing it.
Plug in a key or mic and try transmitting without the computer connected.
73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 16/06/2023 16:46, Russ Edelen wrote:
Aft
Some further info. Logging and control is via DXlab suite set up per the
wiki through a serial port. The controls respond in both directions and
the radio functions as expected during nets and general operation after
the mic settings are adjusted. The problem only occurs at startup. The
k3 and
Try this: shut down the computer, and turn the gain (etc.) to their
correct settings. Then turn the K3 off and on again. Do the settings
reset? If so, the problem is in the K3. If not, it has something to do
with the computer and the program.
73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CW
Thanks Victor, you called it. Started the K3 and it started with the
correct mic controls. Booted the computer and started DXLab modules and
the mic gain reverted to 1. Now I know where to look. Will start by
removing the second radio, which installed when I sent the K3 back to
Elecraft, and go
Why take out the 2nd radio? The problem is in the configuration of the
software on the computer.
Victor 4X6GP
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023, 06:26 Russ Edelen wrote:
> Thanks Victor, you called it. Started the K3 and it started with the
> correct mic controls. Booted the computer and started DXLab modul
My thinking was to restore from an earlier workspace then reinstall the
IC-7300 but I will take a look at the controls first. I don't remember
making any recent changes to to the control configuration.
Russ, KG7VQ
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Bill,
Do you have the mic menu parameter set to FP-H for higher mic gain? We
have two ranges, FP-L for the MH2 and many mics and FP-H for mics like
the Heil HC4/5 that are -8 dB lower in signal than standard.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Bill W5WVO wrote:
I'm just now (finally!) in the process of lear
This question has been answered. Dumb newbie mistake, didn't set config to
rP.H by tapping the "1" button.
Bill W5WVO
Bill W5WVO wrote:
> I'm just now (finally!) in the process of learning, configuring, and
> adjusting my new K3 (S/N 888). I have a Heil Pro-Set with the
> standard dynamic HC-5 mi
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