[Elecraft] [K3] FM filter schematics?

2024-05-13 Thread Jon Iza
Folks, the KFL3-FM filter seems to be hard to get, but Chinese copies of the CW filters are available at fair prices. There is a page with the schematics of all the "narrow" Elecraft filters KFLxx-A but not for the -B FM filter. I have an schematic for an LC filter in order to listen with wide band

[Elecraft] K3 FM Filter

2019-12-20 Thread Jim Stoneback via Elecraft
I have a KFL3B-FM filter that’s excess to my needs. Anyone interested? Jim K4AXF K3 SN4936 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailm

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
You will have to choose which filter is used ALL THE TIME for SSB TX. You COULD currently define the 2.1 filter as 2.7 and set an offset to center it properly. BUT it will not be cleaner as you suppose. The narrower filters have more envelope delay near the skirts, and that creates distortion an

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
In fact, 2.1 was one of the original possibilities for the TX filter and was removed. 73, doug From: "Don Cunningham" Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:31:04 -0500 I agree, Bob, and wouldn't 2.1 kc make our transmit signal even cleaner?? I'm afraid I don't see the "status quo" either. 73

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Don Cunningham
I agree, Bob, and wouldn't 2.1 kc make our transmit signal even cleaner?? I'm afraid I don't see the "status quo" either. 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailm

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Bob Naumann
an.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:07 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM? On 10/8/2010 9:30 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > You can use the FM filter to receive AM, but not for transmit.

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 10/8/2010 9:30 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > You can use the FM filter to receive AM, but not for transmit. To > transmit AM, you must have the 6 kHz filter, so you will have to > sacrifice one filter. Repeating one of my complaints about the K3 there is no reason that the FM filter sho

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Bill Henderson
Don I thought that that might be the case. I can live without TX in AM (hi) Vy 73 Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-FM-Filter-for-AM-tp5614856p5614938.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, You can use the FM filter to receive AM, but not for transmit. To transmit AM, you must have the 6 kHz filter, so you will have to sacrifice one filter. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/8/2010 9:11 AM, Bill Henderson wrote: > Hi > > I already have the 250Hz, 400Hz and 2.7 KHz filters fitted to bot

[Elecraft] K3: FM Filter for AM?

2010-10-08 Thread Bill Henderson
Hi I already have the 250Hz, 400Hz and 2.7 KHz filters fitted to both receivers. I plan to add 2.1KHz or 1.8kHz filters some time I in the future. In the nearer future I intend adding the 2m module to my K3. Since this will be used for local traffic I understand that I need to add an FM filter o

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM Filter for K144XV

2009-10-18 Thread Henk Remijn PA5KT
It must be my translation of english, but I thought FM was usually of better quality then SSB, but maybe thats not want grown-up is? So, if you want to enjoy the better quality of FM over the lousy small bandwidth modes like SSB an/or CW then you need the filter. Also useful for 10 and 6 meters

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM Filter for K144XV

2009-10-18 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Jim Hester wrote ... > >I am waiting like many others for my K144XV. I wonder if I need to order a >FM filter for use with the K144XV. That all depends on whether you want to work on FM (CB!) or on the grown-ups modes of CW and/or ssb. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK

[Elecraft] K3 FM Filter for K144XV

2009-10-18 Thread Jim Hester
I am waiting like many others for my K144XV. I wonder if I need to order a FM filter for use with the K144XV. Jim Hester K5HTK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.q

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM filter bandwidth in other modes

2009-10-16 Thread Stephen Prior
Thanks Joe, Your reply arrived as I was typing my reply to my own original posting, after having found the information in the archive! Many thanks, it's clear in my mind now. 73 Stephen On 16/10/2009 22:16, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > > The K3 DSP maxes out at 4 KHz on SSB and 2.8 KHz on

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM filter bandwidth in other modes

2009-10-16 Thread Stephen Prior
I have just realised my mistake. I can find no reference to it in the manual but in searching the archives (again) I found a posting which mentioned the 4.2kHz (AFAIR) bandwidth limit imposed by the DSP. So, it would seem that things are working as they should- I was confused by the filter setup

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM filter bandwidth in other modes

2009-10-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Prior > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 1:10 PM > To: elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] K3: FM filter bandwidth in other modes > > > I have just fitted the FM filter to finis

[Elecraft] K3: FM filter bandwidth in other modes

2009-10-16 Thread Stephen Prior
I have just fitted the FM filter to finish off my complement (now 13, 6, 2.7, 0.5 and 0.25). I used the K3 utility to set the bandwidth (13kHz) and I have all the square boxes ticked (checked) so that, in my understanding I should be able to go up to the full bandwidth of the filter in all my othe

[Elecraft] K3: FM filter NOT for AM transmit

2009-01-01 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Despite the recent posting citing a comment from 2007, just the other week, Wayne indicated that you NEED the 6kc filter to transmit AM. http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2008-December/102373.html de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter problem

2008-06-29 Thread Lyle Johnson
The problem is that when go 6 metres, select FM mode and press PTT, I get ERR TXF, I have the following set-up in CONFIG menu. FL1 BW - 12.50 This must be 13 kHz 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter problem

2008-06-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chris, I don't have the FM filter here, but as I recall, the filter bandwidth must be set to 13 kHz - try it and see if it 'fixes' the problem. 73, Don W3FPR Chris Meagher wrote: Hello, Have just installled FM filter into slot 1. Other filters are 2.7 in slot 3, 1.8 in slot 4. Also just i

[Elecraft] K3 FM filter problem

2008-06-29 Thread Chris Meagher
Hello, Have just installled FM filter into slot 1. Other filters are 2.7 in slot 3, 1.8 in slot 4. Also just installed KVX3, all appears to be OK with that. The problem is that when go 6 metres, select FM mode and press PTT, I get ERR TXF, which according to the manual p60 rev.c1-3, is incorrec

[Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width - OT

2008-05-06 Thread Don Rasmussen
>>> "put on his smoking jacket and slippers, sit back in his favorite armchair " <<< Smoking Jacket. Ut-oh - not politically correct these days. Now hey're called them "Cancer coats" - I think. ;-) joking - AM is something less without DSB and a carrie

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-06 Thread Bill W5WVO
Vic K2VCO wrote: Stewart Baker wrote: Now I know that it is worth making even a fairly loose LC filter just for occasional AM reception. Keep in mind that you can copy AM stations quite well in SSB mode by zero-beating the carrier and choosing the better sideband (some SWBC stations seem to t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-06 Thread Vic K2VCO
Stewart Baker wrote: Now I know that it is worth making even a fairly loose LC filter just for occasional AM reception. Keep in mind that you can copy AM stations quite well in SSB mode by zero-beating the carrier and choosing the better sideband (some SWBC stations seem to transmit only one

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-06 Thread Stewart Baker
Just to pass the time I used a wire to link across an unused filter position (with a series 0.1u DC blocking capacitor), adjusted the filter bandwidth to 8kHz, and listened to AM broadcast stations. Quite a respectable performance, much better than with a 2.7kHz filter. Now I know that it is worth

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Jerry Flanders wrote: for SWL. Only downside (a minor one, IMO) is that you might get response from images 30 KHz away. How much weaker is a signal when you tune to its image 30 KHz up/down? Less than 30kHz. The whole point of the exercise is to use wide filters, so, assuming that the interf

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Stewart G3RXQ wrote: > > Why not an LC filter for AM reception instead of an expensive > crystal roofing filter ? > I was going to suggest that, then I thought of the points Lyle made and guessed that it wouldn't work. But if it works well enough for casual listening and people are willing to a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Martin
On 5/5/08, Jerry Flanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds good for SWL. Only downside (a minor one, IMO) is that you might get > response from images 30 KHz away. How much weaker is a signal when you tune > to its image 30 KHz up/down? > > Jerry W4UK > I can't hear anything, Jerry, even from o

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Martin
> Blast ! you got there before me Dave. > I have been modeling some suitable LC filters, but as you say they > are a bit wide for transmit. However looking back in my log shows > that I haven't had an AM QSO for 10's of years, so it's unlikely I > will have one now. :-) > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Jerry Flanders
Sounds good for SWL. Only downside (a minor one, IMO) is that you might get response from images 30 KHz away. How much weaker is a signal when you tune to its image 30 KHz up/down? Jerry W4UK At 11:01 AM 5/5/2008, Dave Martin wrote: On 5/5/08, Stewart Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why no

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
... I sure wouldn't transmit with it, though. It's hugely wide, offering no attenuation of unwanted mixer products. If the filter is too wide, then poor 15 kHz image rejection, aliasing and other unwanted things might happen in Rx. The DSP depends on bandwidth limiting prior to digitizing,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Blast ! you got there before me Dave. I have been modeling some suitable LC filters, but as you say they are a bit wide for transmit. However looking back in my log shows that I haven't had an AM QSO for 10's of years, so it's unlikely I will have one now. :-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 5 May 2008 1

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Martin
On 5/5/08, Stewart Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not an LC filter for AM reception instead of an expensive > crystal roofing filter ? > That's what I did. I cut a scrap of PC board to the size of a filter and used three toroids with tuning and coupling caps. It worked just fine in posit

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Why not an LC filter for AM reception instead of an expensive crystal roofing filter ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:29:29 -0600, KM5Q wrote: > My widest filter is 2.8. I am allowed to widen the DSP to 4. So why > not in AM, for BC receiving, be allowed wide enough for high fidelity, > w

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread KM5Q
My widest filter is 2.8. I am allowed to widen the DSP to 4. So why not in AM, for BC receiving, be allowed wide enough for high fidelity, without a roofing (or xmit) filter? (AM can be widened to "10", but it sounds narrow and muffled) I get much better bandwidth (fidelity) now using SSB t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
KM5Q wrote: I like using the K3 for shortwave listening. I would rather not be required to buy the FM xtal filter to get the full bandwidth on AM. Will this change with future revisions? I don't understand the question; it seems to me to be a matter of physics. A roofing filter is needed to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote: > > I like using the K3 for shortwave listening. I would rather not be > required to buy the FM xtal filter to get the full bandwidth on AM. > Will this change with future revisions? > How can you have an IF bandwidth wider than 6KHz without using a filter that's w

[Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-04 Thread Don Rasmussen
lable for K3 firmware and I appreciate the fact that there is online HELP behind each of the CONFIG options (Press DISP when CONFIG menu is up) rather than that time and code space being expended on keeping the display ranges withing what the operator should already kind of know. Just my look. [Elec

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-04 Thread n4lq
--- Original Message - From: "Don Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width Windy, The stock K3 comes with one 2.7khz filter and that's a hardware limitation. The firmware c

[Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-04 Thread Don Rasmussen
he FM filter and it may also be usable in AM transmit. I know its good for FM and SWL. [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width KM5Q km5q at mac.com Sun May 4 20:19:42 EDT 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] Re: K3 FW 1.87 SSB output Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ su

[Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-04 Thread KM5Q
Wayne, In the new firmware announcement you say: AM RECEIVE WIDTH RANGE INCREASED ... NORM selects an IF bandwidth of 6.0 kHz in this mode. WIDTH settings above 6.0 kHz will not be useful unless you have an FM-bandwidth crystal filter installed (at FL1). I like using the K3 for shortwave

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM filter

2008-04-03 Thread Ian J Maude
Lyle Johnson wrote: Can someone tell me what the bandwidth of the FM filter is? 13 kHz 73, Lyle KK7P Thanks Lyle 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] K3: FM filter

2008-04-03 Thread Lyle Johnson
Can someone tell me what the bandwidth of the FM filter is? 13 kHz 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailma

[Elecraft] K3: FM filter

2008-04-03 Thread Ian J Maude
Hi all, Can someone tell me what the bandwidth of the FM filter is? I have fitted it but I cannot see any information regarding bandwidth. Thanks Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM Filter bandwidth

2008-03-21 Thread Lyle Johnson
What is the bandwidth of the KFL-FM filter... It is 13 kHz and the menu entry is corrected in the FM mode code were currently testing. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to th

[Elecraft] K3 FM Filter bandwidth

2008-03-21 Thread G4ILO
What is the bandwidth of the KFL-FM filter, for entering in to the filter setup? I had the idea it was a 15KHz filter, but all the references to it I can find just call it an FM filter, and the adjustment in the Config menu only goes up to 12.50. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO