Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-18 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... But Lyle's comments made me wonder if Wayne had 'cracked it'. Perhaps he has, hopefully will know in a couple of weeks time The same thoughts crossed my mind, David. When I read that Lyle was not a CW operator it did

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-18 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yes, thanks Tom, perhaps I should have made it clearer that I to think that "the brain is best". I'm still working on my Morse and will continue to do so. But was just interested, since what I've seen so far shows just how much better the brain is. But Lyle's comments made me wonder if Wayne had 'c

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-18 Thread Julian G4ILO
I don't agree with your implication that people using CW decoders are lazy. Some people's brains just aren't good at certain tasks. There is just no way I can read (or send) code the speed most people do during contests, for example. It is like trying to decode machine gun fire. Computer decoding

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Lee Buller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... The best CW DSP decoder I've ever used was the one between my ears...sloppy code and all. Well said, Lee. So many people these days seem obsessed on trying to decode CW with electronics rather that taking the bother of training the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread Tom Hammond
Hi David: UNfortunately, you're not going to find many devices (other than the human brain) which will decode poorly sent CW... and the K3 is no different... the CW must be pretty well sent before it can decode it, but it seems to do decently well on less than 'perfect' fists. The brain is s

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread Lee Buller
The best CW DSP decoder I've ever used was the one between my ears...sloppy code and all. Have a great day! Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread Lyle Johnson
Lyle, how good is the decoder? My limited experience of CW decoding in firmware is that the CW has to be near machine perfect in order for the decoder to get it... It does a decent job on reasonable code. I use it as an aid (OK, crutch) rather than as the Gospel :-) Lyle ___

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread ab7r
Just to reinforce this, I now only use software for RTTY if I absolutely have to (mainly for contesting). I find it so much easier to use my paddles and the K3's decoder. You can even do this for "casual" contesting using the CW Messages M1-4. An added benefit from this is by getting use to s

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Lyle, how good is the decoder? My limited experience of CW decoding in firmware is that the CW has to be near machine perfect in order for the decoder to get it. What's the K3 like? On 17/9/07 19:29, "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Oh, yes, about CW. The CW decoder has driven me to l

[Elecraft] K3 Internal Digital Modes

2007-09-17 Thread Lyle Johnson
I confess to not being a CW guy. Yeah, I passed the 20 WPM test for my Extra many years ago, but that didn't make me a devotee. I use microphones or keyboards when I operate. (With the K3, I've even used my paddles, but not for CW!) I find when I have the K3 turned on, I often tune down to