Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Second what Joe said... On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >  > If you have the 6-kHz filter installed, you can increase the >  > effectiveness of the DSP NB with some kinds of noise in SSB mode; just >  > set WIDTH above 2.8 kHz so this wider filter will be selected. > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> If you have the 6-kHz filter installed, you can increase the > effectiveness of the DSP NB with some kinds of noise in SSB mode; just > set WIDTH above 2.8 kHz so this wider filter will be selected. Or modify your configuration so the wider roofing filter is always selected in SSB . Wayne,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Your "In the absence of strong signals" caveat is a big one. The entirely DSP key-click nullification works. I would think that if a pulse is detected, and the wave shape of the pulse artifact after filtering is known, that the known shape can be used in some digital fashion to remove it. Or to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-14 Thread Scott Ellington
My comments apply to ONLY the IF (hardware) noise blanker. Sorry I didn't make that clear, but I'm a hardware guy. The reason for having the IF NB is that short-duration noise pulses, like the ubiquitous power line noise, must be detected ahead of narrow bandpass filters, which effectively len

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The K3 has a dual methodology. 1) DSP and 2) traditional analog IF pulse detection noise blanking which shuts off the IF for very short intervals around the pulse. Doesn't your commentary only apply to the IF NB methods of the K3? The DSP methods take place in firmware, analyzing and adjusting th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-14 Thread Wayne Burdick
Scott, On Dec 14, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Scott Ellington wrote: > The K3 noise blanker bandpass filter appears to have a bandwidth of > about 400 kHz > I'm just guessing, but it seems Elecraft took a different approach > in using the very wide bandwidth. This increases the peak amplitude >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-14 Thread Scott Ellington
The K3 noise blanker bandpass filter appears to have a bandwidth of about 400 kHz, so any strong signal within that bandwidth will affect its operation. This is a problem with all noise blankers of this type, as they can't detect noise pulses smaller than the strongest signal within the filter

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
ther radios? Maybe I got a bad pair. > 73 Hardy N7RT > > - Original Message - > From: "David F. Reed" > To: "elecraft Reflector"; > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:59 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes > > >> Hi folks;

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-12 Thread Wes Stewart
If you look at the K3 schematic you can see that the noise blanker takeoff point is at the output of the first post mixer amplifier.  The bandwidth here is necessarily wide.  In the blanker itself, there is a double-tuned bandpass filter at the input of the noise amplifier(s).  I don't know what

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-12 Thread Hardy Landskov
tightened the knobs when I built the radio. Is this a problem with other radios? Maybe I got a bad pair. 73 Hardy N7RT - Original Message - From: "David F. Reed" To: "elecraft Reflector" ; Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-12 Thread Vic K2VCO
This is the way most analog noise blankers work. They look at a wide bandwidth to detect noise pulses and if there are loud signals in the range they can be interpreted as noise. The K3 has both an analog and a DSP noise blanker. If there are large nearby signals, you should reduce the aggres

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-12 Thread Tony Estep
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David F. Reed wrote: > ...with the NB on, when I noticed that I was getting a strong CW > signal pumping Dave, this is gonna happen with any noise blanker. When I turn on NB on my Brand Y radio, I can hear artifacts from a medium strength CW signal 100

[Elecraft] K3 Questions and gripes

2010-12-12 Thread David F. Reed
Hi folks; Yes, I really love my K3 in spite of my questions and gripes; here they are: 1. During the 10 meter contest, I was up around 28.400 operating SSB with the NB on, when I noticed that I was getting a strong CW signal pumping my AGC (or so it seemed). In doing a littl