Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread riese-k3djc
thought this thread was over Bob On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 09:17:16 -0800 Ron Genovesi writes: > Astron used to make s great supply. I have the same problem with > RS-35M less then a year old. > Worked fine for 8 or 9 months then developed a bad hum or buzz. I > got tired of listening to it and

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Fred Jensen
Our use of the power supplies was on mountain top repeater and remote base sites.  Access was generally time-consuming and sometimes impossible at various times of the year.  The Astrons, while they could be repaired and made to work ... at least for awhile ... were just too unreliable and

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Ron Genovesi
Maybe they were bought out by MFJ ;-) Ron Genovesi N3ETA Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > YES! This is a chronic problem with Astron supplies -- I've never seen one > that didn't have this problem! I first discovered and documented

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Ron Genovesi
Thanks I’ll give it a try. Ron Genovesi N3ETA Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Dennis Moore wrote: > > I picked up a RS-50 from a SK estate, it had a terrible hum. Took the cover > off and tightened all the hardware, hum went away. > > 73, Dennis NJ6G > >>

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Hank
ate: 02/26/19 12:54 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues > > I picked up a RS-50 from a SK estate, it had a terrible hum. Took the > cover off and tightened all the hardware, hum went away. > > 73, Dennis NJ6G > > On 2/26/2019 09:17, Ron Genovesi wrote

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Dennis Moore
I picked up a RS-50 from a SK estate, it had a terrible hum. Took the cover off and tightened all the hardware, hum went away. 73, Dennis NJ6G On 2/26/2019 09:17, Ron Genovesi wrote: Astron used to make s great supply. I have the same problem with RS-35M less then a year old. Worked fine for

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread K9MA
The nice thing about those linear power supplies, though, was that you COULD repair them. 73, Scott K9MA On 2/26/2019 09:52, Phil Kane wrote: On 2/25/2019 6:36 PM, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) wrote: Not to sound like some old codger, but perhaps designs aren’t as robust as they used to be. More

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread K9MA
On 2/26/2019 07:37, Jim - N4ST wrote: (The meter lights have been gone so long, I forgot it had meter lights.) Speaking of meter lights: Those #47 bulbs never lasted long at 6 V, so I used to put a resistor in series with them. Nowadays, a white LED, rectifier, and a resistor would work

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Ron Genovesi
Astron used to make s great supply. I have the same problem with RS-35M less then a year old. Worked fine for 8 or 9 months then developed a bad hum or buzz. I got tired of listening to it and pulled out a 35 Amp switching supply. Haven’t had the time to pull it apart yet. Ron Genovesi

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Ignacy
I wanted to love a 45A Astron but it was heavy and hummed. Sold for peanuts at a hamfest. Replaced by Jetstream JTPS32MAB. Probably same as MFJ-4230MV and many others. Small, quiet and cheap. Excellent regulation. If it dies, it is $80. Ignacy, NO9E -- Sent from:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 2/25/2019 6:36 PM, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) wrote: > Not to sound like some old codger, but perhaps designs aren’t as robust as > they used to be. More marketplace incentive to replace rather than to repair. Then again, no longer having a workshop or good close-up visual acuity any more,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-26 Thread Jim - N4ST
My Astron 35M has been in use since ~1990. I had to repair it after a lightning strike that melted the tip of my 2M Ringo Ranger. (The meter lights have been gone so long, I forgot it had meter lights.) A few years ago, I bought a new 35M and it was defective. Returned it for a 2nd one that was

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/25/2019 7:58 PM, h...@optilink.us wrote: Funny though, when I find a supply with the -VDC tied to chassis ground, I always pull it - some Astrons do and some don't. All of our other linear supplies float (HP, QJE, Acopian). RIGHT! 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Jim Brown
YES!  This is a chronic problem with Astron supplies -- I've never seen one that didn't have this problem!  I first discovered and documented this issue almost 10 years ago.  In one supply, the two clam-shell sections of the chassis were also insulated from each other by paint!  This failure

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
I have had very good results with Astron, but I treat their products like MFJ's: When I get a new one, I always open it up, check that everything is tight, remove paint if needed, look at the soldering, etc. It is worth checking the tightness of the connections to the capacitors every 20 years

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues That's interesting. About the only way I know that a linear supply can be noisy is if the regulator oscillates. That can easily happen. Most of them use emitter followers, which are often unstable driving a capacitive load. That's usually easy to fix

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread hbjr
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues That's interesting. About the only way I know that a linear supply can be noisy is if the regulator oscillates. That can easily happen. Most of them use emitter

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread hbjr
: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:24 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues I have two recent vintage Astron RS-35M units. They still use the exact same 723-based regulator circuit that they have used for thirty years or more, so the design

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Randy Farmer
I have two recent vintage Astron RS-35M units. They still use the exact same 723-based regulator circuit that they have used for thirty years or more, so the design hasn't changed. What **may** have changed is the build quality. I carefully inspected both of mine right after taking delivery. I

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Kevin McQuiggin (SFU)
I have a ~30-year old Astron 13.8 VDC 20-amp supply that I got when it was retired from a project at work. I used it for low current applications for a few years, then it went to storage for about 5 years. One of the two power transistors failed a few months ago and this took out some other

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I have personally found several instances in power supplies I either own or have repaired where the green power wire lug is firmly attached by the bolt and nut.   It however was nicely insulated by the paint!. Visual inspection is the best way to determine if an issue exists.  Do take time

[Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread john
Who makes a better linear power supply, especially large ones? John KK9A Fred Jensen k6dgw wrote: I've given up on Astron despite the fact that many people say they never have troubles. Apparently, Astron does not have a supplier for inside star washers for screw/bolt connectors, I've found

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread K9MA
That's interesting. About the only way I know that a linear supply can be noisy is if the regulator oscillates. That can easily happen. Most of them use emitter followers, which are often unstable driving a capacitive load. That's usually easy to fix by inserting a small inductance between the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread William Rascher
On Monday, February 25, 2019 4:26:40 PM CST Rose wrote: > I've found instances of regulation failures caused > by loose hardware. With the RS-35m Astron Linear PS I have issues with noise. I purchased the PS because everyone around me swears that they are great. Well, from my experience the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Bill Johnson
How old is your PS? 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues I've given

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Fred Jensen
I've given up on Astron despite the fact that many people say they never have troubles.  Apparently, Astron does not have a supplier for inside star washers for screw/bolt connectors, I've found almost crumbly, crystallized cold solder joints on the point-to-point wiring terminals [in one

[Elecraft] OT: Astron linear PS regulation issues

2019-02-25 Thread Rose
I've found instances of regulation failures caused by loose hardware. In particular the nuts atop the filter caps that hold the regulator PC board loosen and simply tightening then will cure the issue. This appears to be caused by compression of the PC board material …"cold flow" to some