Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Josh Fiden
The Ubiquity product uses a little power supply which includes the injector. The connections are AC line, and ethernet in/out. So to replace the power supply you’ve got a bit more of a project. Buy them from amazon. Test for noise. Return if necessary and get something else! Much easier than

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Josh Fiden
I ran 50’ CAT5 with POE to the propane tank where the ubiquity link radio was hung. That’s maybe 80-90’ from my 6m EME array and heard nothing. The CAT5 was due north so not a direction the array was ever pointed and I didn’t go looking for trouble! But I’m pretty quiet, on a good day with some

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Josh Fiden
I had great luck with a pair of ubiquity bullets. They were 5.4GHz with built in directional antennas. Great range and speed. My neighbor’s DSL was out a few days so I ziptied one to a propane tank pointing at his house about 150’ away. Not much obstruction though. He said it was much faster

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Bill Steffey
some of the ubiquiti poe supplies are noisy...  some not. Since I have 5 poe access points pointing in different directions, i have two  third party power hubs   one a 24vdc  one a 48 vdc ... both carry CE markings as does the last Ubiquiti POE ps I used.   I do remember back a while I did

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/22/2019 12:56 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The typical source of noise with PoE is from the switching supply - either connected to a power injector or in some terminal device (e.g. Router/Modem) with the Ethernet cable acting as the antenna. Common mode chokes on the Ethernet cable as close

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 2019-10-22 3:23 PM, Jim Brown wrote: I see that these units use Poe for power. I've experienced pretty nasty noise with products using this -- it radiates common mode from the Ethernet wiring. The typical source of noise with PoE is from the switching supply - either connected to a power

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/22/2019 11:57 AM, Bill Steffey wrote: Hi Bill, I see that these units use Poe for power. I've experienced pretty nasty noise with products using this -- it radiates common mode from the Ethernet wiring. Have you experienced any issues? Did you do anything to suppress noise? How quiet is

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Bill Steffey
to extend your connection do look at Ubiquiti products They are available worldwide. I currently employ over 20 devices over a three mile area to get Ethernet ( broadband)  to my remote location. Your point to point should work with  2 devices for under 100$ each in the US...

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/21/2019 9:13 PM, Andy Wood wrote: I have been setting up my new shack at our remote property. We recently had a fixed wireless internet connection installed at the house but it was too far for the wifi signal to reach the shack (~200ft). Remember that the 2.4 GHz band is UHF radio, and

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-21 Thread Andy Wood
Hi Tim, I have been setting up my new shack at our remote property. We recently had a fixed wireless internet connection installed at the house but it was too far for the wifi signal to reach the shack (~200ft). I purchased a TP-Link 2-Port Gigabit AV2000 Passthrough Powerline Starter Kit. So

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-21 Thread Randy Farmer
I've been using the TrendNet TPL-40x series of powerline wireless adapters for a number of years to get my radio computers (upstairs) on the home network and they work just fine. They're not extremely fast, but they're certainly fast enough to handle telnet spots, programmed file backups, and

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-21 Thread Phil Kane
On 10/21/2019 11:02 AM, Dave AD6A wrote: > I worked on the Home Power standard from its inception. I Was able > to make sure that none of the ham bands were used at all. Thus > HomePower (or Powerline as it gets called) should be the perfect > solution to your problem. > Memories of the old

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-21 Thread Dave AD6A
Hi Tim, I worked on the Home Power standard from its inception. I Was able to make sure that none of the ham bands were used at all. Thus HomePower (or Powerline as it gets called) should be the perfect solution to your problem. Cheers, Dave Fifield AD6A Sent from my  iPhone XS (Max) > On

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-21 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
We're mixing what the power companies tried to do sending IP over the existing power lines to homes, and what the OP is talking about where you plug a box into an outlet in one room, plug a box into an outlet in another room and it all happens inside the house. What he wants is room-to-room

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-21 Thread Andrew Hebden
I used them briefly a few years ago for similar reasons, mainly old solid walls. As Rick said they were slow! The other big thing I found (bear in mind it was few years ago) was the fact that they only worked satisfactorily if on the same circuit. i.e. if the signal went through the consumer unit

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-20 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
I have a similar situation. I have a pair of powerline extenders, and I was unable to detect QRM from them on 40-10m. My antenna is not that far from the building, either. But from time to time, I lose my connection and have to disconnect and reconnect to get it back. Sometimes it can be quite

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-20 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Look at the data rates too, the last time I looked, it  ...  was ... vry slow  Then remember that your signal will be impacting the power lines to some extent. I use gain antennas where I can, not further than 50' away, which works through extenders (repeaters).  You might

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-20 Thread Ian Kahn
Tim, Glad to help! Remember this was several years ago. Maybe things have improved. Do your homework before coming to a conclusion. I just remember all the hub-bub from a few years ago, when Internet-over-power line first came up. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 8:32 PM T Seed wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-20 Thread Ian Kahn
I advise using caution with any Internet-over-power line solutions. Several years ago there were companies that tried implementing Internet-over-power line solutions, especially in Texas. Hams fought them tooth and nail (and won) because these solutions caused so much RFI they left ham radio

[Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders

2019-10-20 Thread a45wg
Fellow Elecrafters, I am trying to extend the wifi based internet coverage in my property. Alas it has very thick concrete walls with lots of re-bar in them, which is good for the odd earthquake - but not so much for wifi.