Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed [Thread ends by 2130 UTC.]

2009-03-03 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's wrap up this discussion in the next 2 of hours. (2130 UTC) There have been 26 posts in the last 24 hrs on this, which is hitting the overload threshold ;-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator --- __ Elecraft mailing list Ho

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Jim Brown On Tuesday, March 03, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote. > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:53:19 -, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > >>Yes, I take your point. It is the fine tweaking of phase that I find >>easier >>to do with a capacitor!! > > Please tell me how you would do that with thi

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:53:19 -, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: >Yes, I take your point. It is the fine tweaking of phase that I find easier >to do with a capacitor!! Please tell me how you would do that with this antenna! :) The "tweaking" involved requires nothing more than looking at

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:28:12 -0500, Matt Palmer wrote: >I've been thinking of building one of these to play with, do you have >any ideas on how to stress relieve the point where you solder the wire >to the coax? This seems to be the weak link in the chain. I use the inexpensive dipole insulator so

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:48:03 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote: >I fail to see the advantage of constructing an end fed dipole with coax >for half of the antenna The advantage is if it solves a particular rigging problem that you encounter. 73, Jim K9YC _

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Mike WA8BXN
I think a dipole fed with balanced line is the best choice as a primary antenna, it works well on multiple bands with a good balanced tuner. Or even a dipole fed with coax, but then you are limited to a single band (unless you parallel multiple dipoles with a single feedline which works very we

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks, I fail to see the advantage of constructing an end fed dipole with coax for half of the antenna - it requires a choke that has a parallel resonant frequency equal to the operating frequency, and the overall length is a half wavelength. I believe it is much easier to construct a half wav

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Jim Brown wrote on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM > A coaxial choke wound on a ferrite core IS a parallel resonant circuit. > Properly done, the choke should be wound to place the resonant frequency > where the antenna will be operated! Study the references I cited in the > earlier post. Y

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:15:04 -, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: >If a resonant trap is placed at the bottom end instead of a choke as an >insulator, A coaxial choke wound on a ferrite core IS a parallel resonant circuit. Properly done, the choke should be wound to place the resonant frequ

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
>Have you been able to verify that a simple choke really blocks the >shield current there? Yes, it works -- IF the choke has a sufficiently high impedance. >Or am I misunderstanding something? No. You can see another way to do this on N6LF's website. 73, Jim K9YC _

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Jim Brown wrote on Monday, March 02, 2009, at 11:09 PM: > A few quibbles with your analysis. First, the antenna that I have > described is > a simple half wave dipole, fed at a current maxima. The only tricky part > is > the power rating of the choke that serves as the end insulator. My choke >

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
Ron, A few quibbles with your analysis. First, the antenna that I have described is a simple half wave dipole, fed at a current maxima. The only tricky part is the power rating of the choke that serves as the end insulator. My choke is NOT a matching element, it an end insulator! Second, thi

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Dave-K7DAA
For those that may be newer on the list that would like to see an example of a good homebrew 1/2 wave end fed setup, here's a good one (with pictures and schematic) on the QRP ARCI site. It was posted by Steve Yates, AA5TB: http://www.qrparci.org/content/view/59/55/ I've used a slight vari

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, Jim. I had thought about that concept years ago when I was doing more casual QRP portable operation (camping, Flight of the Bumblebee-type stuff, etc), but I never tried it because I just assumed that the impedance at the end of a "dipole" (i.e., where the choke would be on the coax) was

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
lman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:32 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:16:27 -0800, Randy Cook wrote: >HOW MANY OF YOU ARE USING PAR ELECTRONICS END FEDS This is a VERY easy antenna to build. Why would

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread J.H. de Wit
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed I used a 10/20/40 last year at FD with good results. Usually "if I could hear 'em, I could work 'em" was true, with the QRP caveat. Top about 35ft. in the air, bottom just a few feet off the ground. This was before I had my K3, but used the

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:16:27 -0800, Randy Cook wrote: >HOW MANY OF YOU ARE USING PAR ELECTRONICS END FEDS This is a VERY easy antenna to build. Why would anyone want to buy what they can build in an hour for a fraction of the cost? See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/NCDXACoaxChokesPPT.pdf One h

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Tom McCulloch
Chuck If your antenna is over salt water (even if that water in under the sand which is under your operating position) you are going to be a VERY happy ham. ANYTHING strung up of salt water will give absolutely fantastic results! Have fun with the PAR or anything else you use under those cond

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim
ch 02, 2009 1:16 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed I am using the 40m EndzFed at my QTH. It slopes from 10 ft outside my shack to 40 ft up into a redwood tree. I do not have a lot configuration for a decent 40M dipole. Although not recommended by PAR, I

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread W5CEM
I used a 10/20/40 last year at FD with good results. Usually "if I could hear 'em, I could work 'em" was true, with the QRP caveat. Top about 35ft. in the air, bottom just a few feet off the ground. This was before I had my K3, but used the T1 with my FT817 and even used it on six meters for a fe

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread K4IA
I have used a PAR end fed with my K1 at the beach. I feed it at the top and run it from the condo balcony down at a slope to somewhere I can tie it off where no one will run into it. It works very well - better than an Outback vertical attached to the balcony. So far, no one has complained

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Randy Cook
I am using the 40m EndzFed at my QTH. It slopes from 10 ft outside my shack to 40 ft up into a redwood tree. I do not have a lot configuration for a decent 40M dipole. Although not recommended by PAR, I have worked stations on 60 and 80 meters with it using the K3 autotuner. I cannot co