Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-23 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Just a thought, but a couple of dollars (less than $20 IIRC) buys a battery operated doorbell that uses a couple of alkaline C-cells that last for many years. Makes it very easy to add a second bell in a basement shop or garage that also rings, if needed. Been decades since I had a doorbell trans

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Ken Alexander
--- On Sat, 10/23/10, Phil Kane wrote: >   If you mean the doorbell transformer, the insulation dries out >   and turns start shorting, leading to excessive heating and >   internal arcing.  They usually have an internal thermostat to >   cut it off when hot, and after it cools down it starts all

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Phil Kane
On 10/22/2010 7:49 PM, Jim Miller wrote: > What is there about a transformer that causes so much grief? Curious... If you mean the doorbell transformer, the insulation dries out and turns start shorting, leading to excessive heating and internal arcing. They usually have an internal thermo

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
They are cheaply built with little insulation. A good power surge or lightning strike will puncture the insulation and the primary will arc to the frame/core on peaks of the wave. Door bell transformer failure will have a marked 120 Hz rough note. The homeowner should consider themselves lucky

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Jim Miller
What is there about a transformer that causes so much grief? Curious... 73 jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Phil Kane
On 10/22/2010 4:08 PM, Dick Williams wrote: > After a little "detective work", I traced the source of the > interference to the doorbell transformer. Disconnected it, and > told him to go buy a new one. When I was doing residential RFI-hunting in the 1970s-1990s, doorbell transformers were t

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Nick-WA5BDU
Quite a coincidence. In 1978 I had horrible RFI that blanketed HF and 2 meters and also affected TVs and even people's stereo systems. Naturally, my neighbor asked if it could be my ham radio. At one point I looked out and saw another guy walking up and down the street with a portable radio, t

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Dick Williams
told him to go buy a new one. Of course we were both "happy campers". Dick K8ZTT -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lou Kolb Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 4:24 PM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Lou Kolb
ed generating a terrible hash. When I pulled it the problem was immediately solved. 73, Lou WA3MIX - Original Message - From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: "'Mike Weir'" ; Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering &

Re: [Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That sounds like arcing somewhere Mike (BTW, it's QRN - N - noise instead of QRM -M for interference from other stations). It could be a power line insulator. Sometimes a fluorescent bulb dying sounds like that as the starter keeps re-engaging. I've heard that sort of thing from some street light

[Elecraft] QRM and filtering

2010-10-22 Thread Mike Weir
Over the last 2 weeks some QRM has shown up and I have tried some of the NR and NB filtering options to get rid of it and it's not really working to well. I am not sure if I am using the proper filtering or the settings I am using are off. I have an audio example of the QRM or even RFI on my bl