[Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-10-31 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, When I run the K2/100 into my Acom 1000 I usually set the requested power to about 30 - 35W. I seldom drive the amp more than 400 - 500W output. On CW all is fine but on SSB I notice there is a severe overshoot on the output for the first syllable after changing to TX and after a few se

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-10-31 Thread Bill Acito W1PA
Mike, I notice the opposite (but when running full power: 100-110W). The first couple of syllables are lower, and then it kicks up. I'll try reducing power and see if it goes in the other direction. I was told that the previous effect was normal (action of the ALC). Bill W1PA K2/100 #61 __

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-10-31 Thread Don
Same thing here, with or without an external amp. CW is as expected. But when switching to SSB I will get full output (sometimes well over 100 watts) at any power setting over 11 watts and sometimes cause a shutdown of my power supply and a reboot of the K2/100. This behavior goes away when

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-01 Thread Steve Kavanagh
I think Don's observations sound like the problem I and a few others have had. See, for example the symptoms described here: http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2005-03/msg00676.html http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2005-12/msg00408.html These two, at least, we

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-01 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
- Original Message - From: "Steve Kavanagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot I think Don's observations sound like the problem I and a few others have had. See, for example the symptoms d

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-01 Thread Don
t: Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot I think Don's observations sound like the problem I and a few others have had. See, for example the symptoms described here: http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2005-03/msg00676.html http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-02 Thread Steve Kavanagh
--- Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you any thoughts about what might be causing > Don's K2/100 to behave > when he switches the display from RF to ALC? Yes, that is quite unexpected ! David, M0DHO, brought this peculiarity to my attention and I noticed the same be

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Harris
| | | - Original Message - | From: "Steve Kavanagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: | Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:55 AM | Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot | | | >I think Don's observations sound like the problem I | > and a few others have had. S

RE: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
as something I could do. Do you (or | anyone) have the details of the necessary resistor changes? | | Don K7FJ | | | | - Original Message - | From: "Steve Kavanagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: | Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:55 AM | Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SSB output ove

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, I haven't found any difference switching about from RF to ALC and back to my overshoot problem. Neither any effect by sneaking up on the requested power from a previously lower setting or down from a higher setting. Regards, Mike VP8NO | > Have you any thoughts about what might be cau

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-02 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, | It's not as elegant as having an automatic circuit handle the issue, but one | way to reduce the amount of ALC and associated "overshoot" on 40 is to | reduce the audio to the rig. Switch in the audio attenuator at the MENU or | otherwise reduce the audio to the mic jack until you are get

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-03 Thread David Honey
At 22:55 02/11/2006, Mike Harris wrote: G'day, I have now done the resistor mod to no effect and will probably revert 'cos I don't like how I had to add the 1K0 in series with the base of Q1. Hi Mike, ISTR making the ALC *very* much more aggressive to tackle this, especially on 80m. I think

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
On Friday, November 03, 2006 at 3:27 PM, David M0DHO wrote: .I have yet to see a detailed description how BOTH of these control loops work, so if anyone has any more details on this, I'd appreciate the wisdom being shared :-) --- Lik

RE: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Geoff, Your question is a lot easier than the control loop question. The series resistor R66 on the RF board will limit the response of the basic detector in the base K2 when the other devices are installed - consider that the KPA100 (and other options that provide the VRFDET signal) use an op amp

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output overshoot

2006-11-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Don, Thank you for putting me straight on this. On the control loop question I agree with David, M0DHO, that an explanation of the workings of the ALC system would be useful not only in its dynamic state but also in its static state. 73, Geoff GM4ESD - Original Message - Geoff,