Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-12 Thread Keith Heimbold
I will confer with my electrician as I just had major electrical upgrade completed in January. I was planning to get a dedicated 240V line installed anyway. Thanks, Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:17 AM, "Jim Brown" wrote: > On 12/12/2011 9:04 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/12/2011 9:04 AM, "Carl, WCØV" wrote: > What isn't mentioned is the fact that MOVs are rated by the TOTAL energy > in Joules that they will absorb in their lifetime before they fail. The > energy absorbed from spikes is cumulative and when the rating is > exceeded, boom. > They are also respon

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-12 Thread Carl, WCØV
What isn't mentioned is the fact that MOVs are rated by the TOTAL energy in Joules that they will absorb in their lifetime before they fail. The energy absorbed from spikes is cumulative and when the rating is exceeded, boom. They are also responsible for nasty noise generated by the crowbar ac

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-11 Thread Keith Heimbold
Thanks, Jim for the advice. Appreciate it. Best Regards, Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:45 PM, "Jim Brown" wrote: > On 12/11/2011 1:50 PM, Keith Heimbold wrote: >> I bought new 4070 joule APC surge protectors with $150k guarantee (whatever >> that m

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/11/2011 1:50 PM, Keith Heimbold wrote: > I bought new 4070 joule APC surge protectors with $150k guarantee (whatever > that means). It means nothing. Shunt mode surge protectors (MOVs) at branch outlets can cause more problems than they solve. The only safe place for an MOV is as part of

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-11 Thread Keith Heimbold
Jim & Crew, I bought new 4070 joule APC surge protectors with $150k guarantee (whatever that means). A fellow colleague responded to me separately about the issue with the 6m preamp and I am sorting out deal. It appears that the preamp may not like the Y connector while it is connected to the Y

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Thanks for the information. I will make sure to do a full diagnostic tomorrow on the power supplies and strips. Keith Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 10, 2011, at 8:42 PM, "Jim Brown" wrote: > On 12/10/2011 6:02 PM, Jim Wiley wrote: >> I have a few Tripp-Lite >> "Isobar" outle

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/10/2011 6:02 PM, Jim Wiley wrote: > I have a few Tripp-Lite > "Isobar" outlet boxes, and if they "catch" a surge, they will make a > VERY loud bang! That very loud bang is almost certainly the MOV failing (and they fail destructively). 73, Jim K9YC ___

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
s (three in all). Try Radio Shack. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Alan V31FA >> >> - Original Message - From: "Jim Wiley" >> To: "Keith Heimbold" >> Cc: >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:02 PM >> Subject: R

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Alan Slusher
> Or purchase a new outlet strip, open it up, and install an MOV across each > pair of wires (three in all). Try Radio Shack. > > Cheers, > > Alan V31FA > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Wiley" > To: "Keith Heimbold" > Cc: > S

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Alan Slusher
ey" To: "Keith Heimbold" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise > May not have been your radio at all, but instead might have been a > "surge protected" multiple AC outlet box. I have a few Tripp-Lite > &

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Thanks Jim. The preamp is still not functioning but that does describe the sound. Keith Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 10, 2011, at 6:04 PM, "Jim Wiley" wrote: > May not have been your radio at all, but instead might have been a "surge > protected" multiple AC outlet box. I

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Jim Wiley
May not have been your radio at all, but instead might have been a "surge protected" multiple AC outlet box. I have a few Tripp-Lite "Isobar" outlet boxes, and if they "catch" a surge, they will make a VERY loud bang! Fooled me for a while until I figured out what was happening. Sounds like

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
I did deenergize the equipment during the install. Anyway, something is wrong and more troubleshooting is needed. Thanks, Keith Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:38 PM, "Fred Jensen" wrote: > Keith, please tell all of us your headphones were *not* plugged in when

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
I had to have them off for part of it but def had them on when I put on the preamp. Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:38 PM, "Fred Jensen" wrote: > Keith, please tell all of us your headphones were *not* plugged in when > you had them on and were plugging and unplu

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Fred, I had them on. Bad idea. I will be more careful. Thanks, Keith Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:38 PM, "Fred Jensen" wrote: > Keith, please tell all of us your headphones were *not* plugged in when > you had them on and were plugging and unplugging stuff .

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Fred Jensen
Keith, please tell all of us your headphones were *not* plugged in when you had them on and were plugging and unplugging stuff ... we all want live Elecrafters. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org On 12/10/2011 1:25 PM, Ke

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Hi Mark, There is nothing physical like burn or open visible to the eye.I will probably try connecting it to an external power supply and see if that fixes the issue. Whatever happened it was loud. I wonder if the Y connectors are flawed because I was also going to hook up my LP Panadapter lat

Re: [Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Mark Bayern
You could open it up and see if any 'spare' parts fall out, or if any of the components on the board look like they have let out their magic smoke. Missing/blackened traces on the PC board would also be a telltale sign. (I am assuming that any failure that actually created a loud noise ought to be

[Elecraft] Shack equipment noise

2011-12-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Wayne- I am a bit embarrassed about something that just happened in my shack because i think i just blew up my external 6m preamp. I was putting in line my six meter preamp and using a db15 Y connector with my Yaesu Quadra amp on the other connector. I was not transmitting and just getting i