Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3

2010-05-20 Thread Val
Well, there is P3 - the largest display, someone could image. And the software could bring out there all needed information, alongwith "analog S-meter". Band buttons, mode buttons - there is also an easy solution. Imagine a thiny box 1/2" x 1/2" x 10.7", the same style and paint as K3 - there

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3

2010-05-20 Thread Tom W8JI
>>After ownning K3 from the beginning, my request would be >>for an "armchair" > version of K3. There would be an analog S-Meter, large > LED/LCD display, band > buttons, mode buttons. I also -really- enjoy an analog > "take-off" receiver > for CW. I agree with that!!! I would love to have a b

[Elecraft] Son of K3

2010-05-20 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Interesting thoughts, Don. 73, Dick - KA5KKT >Don Rasmussen wb8yqj at yahoo.com >Sun May 16 12:44:41 EDT 2010 >I think $800 more for the K3 versus comparable TS-590 may be about right, I always hate to see kit prices higher than f

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-17 Thread Karl Marderian
Elecraft up dates it's stuff and as you can see everyone on web is helpfully and cool. Even if just get the ten watt unit you love the K3 and can alwasys add, add and add. N6XVT 73 Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Jim Bennett wrote: > Hi Karl - > > Just read your post and go

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-17 Thread Karl Marderian
Oh, it is mostly over my head, but thank you for the explaintion. My frist transceiver was a Kenwood. They were at one time one of the best. Maybe Elecraft has started a new apporach to transceivers. N6XVT 73 Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2010, at 6:38 PM, "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" wrot

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-17 Thread Gary Gregory
Alan, Had a chuckle while I read your reply. Now, I wonder where I can stay next year...me thinks I have to see this for myself...(Grin) Well I better go pack the gear for this Dxpedition, man I have a heck of a lot of "stuff" to put on the trailer and now only 36 hours away from lights, act

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-17 Thread Alan Bloom
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:56 -0400, W4CCS wrote: > Hi Gary: > > Here is my take on Dayton 2010.. > > The Elecraft booth was by far the most popular place to be. As we were packing up at the end of the show, the follow selling ham apparel told me he was very glad his booth was right across the ai

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bert, The height of the signal on the spectral display of the P3 is about the truest and fastest responding "analog S-meter" display that one can obtain. 73, Don W3FPR Bert Craig wrote: > Let me get my $0.02 in before the dreaded "End of Thread" message appears. > > I too would love to see an a

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
No criticism of Elecraft nor the K3 was intended, besides I do not have any good hard data as to the receive signal handling capability of the K3's DSP sub-system. What triggered my comment was that the TS-590 is said to use only two roofing filters and it is claimed by the manufacturer that "i

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Karl Marderian
For me and all others (I maybe the only one). Does this imply the enginreers at Elcraft need to do some brushing up on designing of DSPs. Are you saying their heterodynes aren't would they should be. N6XVT 73 Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2010, at 8:45 AM, "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-16 Thread W4CCS
Hi Gary: Here is my take on Dayton 2010.. The Elecraft booth was by far the most popular place to be. Saw the new P3 and the new KPA500. Both were impressive. No pictures from me. I had enough to tote around.. The new Kenwood radio was good to see but not a lot of interest by my observatio

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-16 Thread Grant Youngman
VGA? Not HDMI? How ever will I get this low res signal to look crisp on my 60" 1080p display? And what about 3-D? :-) Grant/NQ5T On May 16, 2010, at 2:25 PM, W4CCS wrote: > Wayne also indicated that a VGA video output option (P3) is in the > works as well... GREAT..!! > ___

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-16 Thread Gary Gregory
Gee, it just keeps getting better and better eh? What gear have they got on display?...any photos of the Booth for us that are far away and in the dark?...(Grin) Gary VK4FD On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:25 AM, W4CCS wrote: > Wayne also indicated that a VGA video output option (P3) is in the > work

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-16 Thread W4CCS
Wayne also indicated that a VGA video output option (P3) is in the works as well... GREAT..!! W4CCS On 5/16/2010 2:09 PM, Bill NY9H wrote: > great dayton... > > a lot more people > a lot more young people , > > SUNSHINE,,, > > > I passed by / thru Kenwood three times along the wall of the

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Bert Craig
Bert WA2SI - Original Message - From: "Don Rasmussen" To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? > After ownning K3 from the beginning, my request would be for an "armchair" > version of K3. There would be an analog S-Meter, large LED/LCD di

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? & P3 keyboard interface

2010-05-16 Thread Bill NY9H
great dayton... a lot more people a lot more young people , SUNSHINE,,, I passed by / thru Kenwood three times along the wall of the new radio... I did hear the word "K3" each time... not one time did I hear "kenwood",. If the new Kenwood has a tuner I wonder if it has the capabilit

[Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Don Rasmussen
nalog "take-off" receiver for CW. But the guys have based their product line around K3 and I feel strongly that anyone that buys a K3 today will have the current Elecraft transceiver for years to come. didit. [Elecraft] Son of K3?? Bob Schreibmaier k3ph at ptd.net Sun May 16

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread lstavenhagen
well, OK. If you've been convinced you need to spend 10 grand on a rig that's outperformed by a better one costing a 1/5th the price, then there's not much more I can say. You get what you deserve comes immediately to mind, but hey, go ahead - knock yourself out. I never fell for it, but that's

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Wes Stewart
I wish that I was in a position to do these things---I'm not---but why get upset with those who are? I'm sure there were those who when watching coverage of the Kentucky Derby were shocked and/or thought a guy nuts when he walked up with a briefcase full of money ($100K) and bet it on a horse.

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Hector Padron
you think about another guy on the same website buying and old Hallicrafter SR-400 for the crazy amount of $7700 ? ah? no brain at all,go figure.   AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Sun, 5/16/10, lstavenhagen wrote: From: lstavenhagen Subject: Re: [Elec

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
If the TS-590 uses only two roofing filters and has "the best receiver specs out there", then I speculate that it could be using an H-Mode mixer, that the roofers exhibit better than average in-passband and skirt IIP3 followed by a decent "strong" IF, plus a LO whose phase noise is suitably low

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread lstavenhagen
Don't forget tho that the K3 has the option for you to build it yourself. Then you know how it goes together and you save $250 over the fully built version in the process. Then there's the fact that the Kenwood is a catchup radio that's not even finished yet, and once it goes into to production t

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-16 Thread Bob Schreibmaier
>WHY? The K3/100 is 1900. For $100 you would buy the Kenwood - NOT. Actually, the K3/100 is $2150. Plus $100 for the 500 Hz filter. Plus $330 for the antenna tuner. The K3/100 ends up being almost $800 more. Think we should wait and see what kind of performance the TS-590S actually delivers.

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Jan Erik Holm
On 2010-05-16 02:43, Don Rasmussen wrote: > I won't buy one, even if it were a better radio. Kenwood service has a very > very bad reputation. I did notice though, that they included BAND KEYS aka > tunable memories. For those that would use K3/590 outside of the confines PC > based software, a

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Wes Stewart
My TS-870 has the same configuration.  Paralleled wires and a Molex plug that doesn't fall out when you move the radio. --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Edward Dickinson, III wrote: From: Edward Dickinson, III Subject: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: wm...@triad.rr.com

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
WHY? The K3/100 is 1900. For $100 you would buy the Kenwood - NOT. 73, Jim - Original Message - From: "juergen" To: Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? Hi If the new Kenwood does deliver K3 like performance at the reported pric

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread juergen
perspective the Kenwood radio is a welcome! John --- On Sat, 5/15/10, George A. Thornton wrote: > From: George A. Thornton > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? > To: "Edward Dickinson, III" , > Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Cc: wm...@triad.rr.com > Date: Saturday, May

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Jim Wiley
Ed - Doubled-up power cords were (are) standard with most Kenwood HF rigs. My 10 year old TS-570S (100 watts out) came with a "4-wire" power cable, as did the much older TS-950S that preceded it. - Jim, KL7CC Edward Dickinson, III wrote: > I noticed > doubled-up power cords into the TS

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread George A. Thornton
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: wm...@triad.rr.com Subject: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? In a photo taken at Dayton and posted to Flickr (search "TS-590"), I noticed doubled-up power cords into the TS-590S. Has anyone heard a mention of 200 watts? 73, Dic

[Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
In a photo taken at Dayton and posted to Flickr (search "TS-590"), I noticed doubled-up power cords into the TS-590S. Has anyone heard a mention of 200 watts? 73, Dick - KA5KKT - I talked to a Kenwood rep at Dayton this morning

[Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Don Rasmussen
log S-meter, that one might have me considering risking Kenwood Service... Nehhh, they are the pits. If I might suggest if there was a "rig killer" out there it would be named Kenwood Service. ;-) PS - Or Kenwood parts - ack! [Elecraft] Son of K3?? William Ravenel wmrav at triad.rr.

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread William Ravenel
I talked to a Kenwood rep at Dayton this morning. He said the TS-590 would have the best receiver specs out there. I asked if it would beat the K3 and he said the TS-590 would have the best receiver specs out there. The radio has an IF of 11MHz and two stock roofing filters - 2.8KHz and 500Hz -

Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread Hector Padron
What? Are you dreaming? That Kenwood radio will never be the son of our K3's.   AD4C   "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Sat, 5/15/10, jack jackson wrote: From: jack jackson Subject: [Elecraft] Son of K3?? To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, May

[Elecraft] Son of K3??

2010-05-15 Thread jack jackson
Kenwood TS-590,,, Son of K3?? or,,(Attempted) Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@ma