Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-15 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:58:26 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: Yes you did open the flood gate. Antenna opinions are like noses. Every one has one... As Ron say's, If you can't get a dipole up 1/2wl you will be sending most of your radiated output and receiving at high angles, which

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-15 Thread Wes Stewart
...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:40 PM On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:58:26 -0800, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: Yes you did open the flood gate.  Antenna opinions

[Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Clint
Fellow Elecrafters, I have a feeling this may open the flood gates but here goes. I am a newbie Ham but a long time SWL going back to my Knight Kit Star Roamer. I am fixin' to set-up my antenna farm. OK, it will be more like an antenna garden as I have a small house and lot. My K3/100 has a

[Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Ken Kopp
Hi Clint! Welcome to the reflector The reality is that most won't be able to place antennas high enough and free of surroundings to realize their text book or free space patterns, and it's more a case of you takes what you gets. It's a complicated matter, with many variables, all mostly

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Eric Tichansky
In a space limited situation, a parallel dipole (or inverted-V) does well. Just calculate your 1/2 wave lengths for each band connect them to a common feedpoint. Use small diameter PVC for spreaders. Even on a small lot, you could get away with an 80-10 parallel (fan) inverted-V. The ends

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm OOPS

2009-12-14 Thread Duncan Carter
I have very limited space plus hoa restrictions; the center /feedpoint of the dipoles is only fourteen feet high. With this antenna, my K3, or it's predecessor, a very modified FT-101E, I've worked 111 DXCC entities since erecting it in early July. Since these photos were made, I've added

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
As Ken mentioned, height is an important factor in a horizontal or semi-horizontal antenna. There's limited gain in any direction at low angles unless the radiator is 1/2 wavelength above ground. That's why most of us have to live with little directivity on the lower bands. The option is to

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello Clint, While planning your antenna farm, have you considered using an antenna modelling program such as EZNEC which could be of great help to you. A free version comes with the ARRL Antenna Handbook. Due to the effect of nearby objects such as above ground power lines, metal gutters etc

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Bob Cunnings
And, if you don't have enough space for a radial field on the ground, try a vertical doublet, center fed with balanced line for multi-band operation. I've been using one for years which is 32 ft. tall and can be loaded easily from 30 meters to 15 meters. Much better for dx than my low dipole and

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Phil LaMarche
W9DVM -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Cunnings Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm And, if you don't have enough space for a radial

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Duncan Carter
Duncan Carter wrote: Even if you don't have space for a large radial field, you are apt to do better with elevated radials, even one radial ( the lower half of the dipoles) as I have. Putting wire in or on the ground is mainly useful for keeping earthworms warm. To read a lively debate

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Mel Farrer
and on what bands that your budget can afford.  Good luck. Mel, K6KBE --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Clint clint.st...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Clint clint.st...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Elecraft] antenna farm To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:17 AM Fellow Elecrafters

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm Hello Clint, While planning your antenna farm, have you considered using an antenna modelling program such as EZNEC which could be of great help to you. A free version comes with the ARRL Antenna Handbook

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Byron Servies
On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: While planning your antenna farm, have you considered using an antenna modelling program such as EZNEC which could be of great help to you. A free version comes with the ARRL Antenna Handbook. This is the approach I am taking,

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Vic K2VCO
Byron Servies wrote: On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: This is the approach I am taking, though I ended up buying EZNEC+ as I have a lot of architectural metal in my 3-story town home over the Santa Cruz small craft harbor. The first story is also stucco,

Re: [Elecraft] antenna farm

2009-12-14 Thread Duncan Carter
When I first put up my vertical, I only had 40 and 20 meters and mounted them on the opposite of my house from the current feed point location, that is, in between and close to the rain gutter and the metal chimney liner. The feed point resistance on 40 was as expected but the feed point